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A lot of times before I’m falling asleep I think about “you know, I usually don’t remember anything from when I fall asleep so what if it’s actually some horrific experience you have daily and just forget about?”
Have you watched Severance?
Thank you brain, very cool
If brain very cool, big problems have
reading this thread right before sleep, awesome.
I’ve had this since my late teens. It’s more common when you have irregular sleep patterns. Nowadays it’s more rare.
It’s scary shit, specially if you panic. In time I’ve learned to control it when I have an episode and mostly succeed. But occasionally I still panic, but not like before.
Wiggling a toe will make the movement come back slowly and if you recognize what’s happening and keep calm you’ll avoid the most disturbing hallucinations. You can even succeed in controlled lucid dreaming during an episode.
I never saw the demon but I have felt its presence. It’s actually not as scary as it sounds. The scariest hallucinations were actually feeling people had entered my room and were intending to hurt me and I couldn’t budge. Once it happened with my old landlord when I was in college. He lived upstairs and I had an episode after falling asleep in my living room. I heard him enter my unit and saw him stand over me talking gibberish. It was so unsettling. I finally moved in a panic and I was by myself. He was actually a very chill guy, best landlord ever.
A few times I was unable to move, alone in the dark, and suddenly moved unexpectedly only to see my girlfriend or room mate towering over me and tell me I was moaning heavily in my sleep and thought I was having a bad nightmare. I’ve wondered how many of the sleep paralysis are actually nightmares and we ARE asleep.
I get that feeling of “someone’s in the house” every single time… Horrid even though I know that it’s not true.
Don’t worry that’s just me… Really nothing to worry about , I promise
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This is almost exactly how it happens for me, I’ve never really seen “the demon”, but I know it’s there and I can feel its presence at a super intense level. Sometimes, I hear them walk into my room and stand over me. Other times, they’re just there, staying perfectly out of sight.
The worst part of it for me is when I try to speak or scream and nothing comes out. That’s more scary to me than “the demon”
It’s interesting that other people call it “the demon” too. That’s how I’ve always thought of it. The demon comes in various forms for me. Once it was distinctly female with a feminine voice. Another time it was a gargantuan shadow beast slowly walking toward me to kill me. Very rarely it won’t involve a demon though and I’ll think a human is breaking in, or I won’t perceive anything in particular.
I haven’t had an episode in a long time but I would try to tell myself to just breathe through it. The moving an extremity would help too. The worse part was that I’d get them in bunches. If one happened I’d have to stay awake for a bit or I’d get them over and over. Thankfully never saw any demons; just a vision of my surroundings but I couldn’t move.
Wiggling a toe will make the movement come back slowly
I have crazy “Greek Toe” and can make sounds like clicking your fingers. It wakes my wife and she wakes me most of the time.
I have this every now and then except i kinda just half-wake up and everything feels profoundly wrong in some ineffable way, like the dream world merges with the real world and there’s a sense that something bad is going to happen at any moment.
This is consistent with my experience. I didn’t have a paralysis demon, but I was convinced my ceiling fan was plotting to kill me. Not that it was going to fall and hurt but that it was scheming to have me assassinated and would take matters into its own hands if necessary.
My sleep paralysis demon was a black cat, and it stepped on my balls, causing astonishingly realistic pain
This one is strangely realistic.
So glad I never had the visions. “Just” the paralysis.
I’ve seen some wild shit during sleep paralysis. One of the tamer fits I had was seeing a really tall human-shaped apparition that was made of the shadow in the corner of my room. It felt like he cursed me to not be able to move. I was scared of that corner for a few nights.
One of the crazier ones: One night I was going to sleep with my curtains open, but the blinds were down so lines of orange light were spilling in from the street light onto the ceiling. I had the window open, so the occasional breeze pushed and pulled the lines like waves on a beach. It was hypnotizing. I was watching them half asleep, and eventually they slowly started morphing into what looked like pretty glowing runes dancing around my ceiling.
Then I start hearing voices outside my apartment. In reality, I’m sure it was a few teenagers walking home while having an unreasonably loud conversation for the time of night, but what I heard was 3 of them, multiplying into maybe 6, then tens of them, hundreds, thousands… Eventually it felt like an ocean of people was outside my apartment. Playful voices that were utterly unconcerned with me, not even aware I existed, but I was terrified they might spill into my room and kill me. The juxtaposition between the threat of being overrun by whoever those voices were coming from and the complete lack of visual evidence that there was anyone there at all was surreal.
At this point I know it’s sleep paralysis because I can’t move, but I try my best to drag myself off the bed with what little motor functions I still have to hopefully wake me up on impact. Eventually I succeed, and I wake up in my bed. The orange lines are spilling onto my ceiling just like before. Everything is quiet again, with just the soft sound of my fan whirring, slowly turning left and right.
And then I think about what just happened… If I woke up by falling onto the floor, how am I still in my bed?
Now the fan has morphed into a monster with a head of violently spinning blades, twisting and looming over me while making intimidating metallic sounds.
Your sleep paralysis demon should send their resume to a few Hollywood producers if they ever get bored of only traumatizing one human at a time. A+ storytelling.
Or the guy who made skinamarink! He had a YouTube channel originally where he’d adapt people’s dreams into short films. There was some wild stuff
ima need a link for that channel bro
As scary as it sounds, I’m kinda curious to experience this just once myself
It’s hard to do it on purpose, but one tip I can give you is this: (this turned out way longer than I meant it to be lol, sorry)
Sleeping on your back seems to be a must. I’ve never had it happen to me while sleeping any other way. For this reason, in my experience it’s more likely to happen when I’m sick or physically exhausted, because I toss and turn a lot before I actually manage to get to sleep.
Another thing I’ve heard people say is that learning how to lucid dream can help. Which makes sense, because for one, I’ve always been able to lucid dream and I seem to have gotten sleep paralysis a lot more than most people. And two, sleep paralysis is just being lucid during REM sleep but with your eyes open.
Also something to keep in mind is that it may only last a few seconds, and you’re not really guaranteed to see anything strange. It’s not always a wild 1-2 minute long journey like in the experience I shared here. For me, a lot of the time it’ll start with me trying to wake myself up when I realize I’m dreaming, and then I’ll get my eyes open and struggle to move… Then after a handful of seconds I overcome it and go to the bathroom or something, then whoops, the door fell off and into a huge expanse of blue sky and clouds that’s somehow located entirely within my bathroom. I never left the bed, I just dreamt that I overcame the paralysis lol.
In order to see stuff that isn’t there your emotions have to get involved. It’s still a dream even though you’re using your eyes and mostly looking at real things, so the dream parts of what you see are heavily influenced by what’s going on in your head. That’s why most people see shadow monsters or “feel their presence”, because not being able to move your body when you’re not expecting it is scary, so you start to see scary things. The experience I shared here started off peaceful because I wasn’t compelled to move, I was just relaxed and looking at pretty glowing orange lines morphing into runes on my ceiling… Then the kids outside my window startled me, and that turned into a horrifying audio hallucination. Then later in the experience, I didn’t see anything scary until I realized I couldn’t have actually fallen off the bed if I were still in my bed, which made me nervous and the fan monster manifested itself.
The one time I got it was when I was actively recording my dreams and trying to lucid dream
This has only happened to me once. I was conscious, my eyes were open, and I was able to move my pinky and ring finger on my left hand. My wife sleeps to my left. I kept clawing at her, trying to scream her name, but only a sound that resembled her name came out. On the other side of the room, was a tall, dark, shadowy figure with faint, white eyes. Just staring at me. Not moving. Eventually I fell asleep and woke up in the morning.
An experience I don’t care to repeat.
I wish I had that at least once, to know how it is like. Also why do people open their eyes instead of keep trying to sleep?
I’ve had this. No you don’t. It isn’t fun. Experiencing full body paralysis for a minute was a deeply unsettling and terrifying experience. I hated every second. Unless you’re prepared in some way, having the presence of mind to try to sleep again seems difficult.
I didn’t have a hallucination with that one though. I have that with a different parasomnia. I’ve had a hypnopompic (upon walking up) hallucination one time. That was freaky but only lasted a few seconds.
Interesting, for me it doesn’t sound scary. I can imagin it’s scary if you do not know what it is. But if you know, isn’t it mostly annoying, like you want to move but can’t? Sorry if this is uncomfortable to you. To me it sounds relaxing, I often want to sleep, but my body still constantly wants to move and only when I notice my body got really heavy, almost unmovable, I know I’ll fall asleep any second now.
Waking up could be a bit more annoying, like if it takes longer than a few minutes. But I usually need 15 minutes or more before I move out of the bed anyways. I can however only imagin it.
Edit: sorry if my language offended people, English is my second language and I didn’t intended to sound condescending.
But if you know, isn’t it mostly annoying, like you want to move but can’t?
Not really. Not being able to move while you feel threatened is a very primal kind of fear, so it’s hard to rationalize your way out of it even after you realize what’s going on.
But knowing what the cause of it is does help a little bit. It doesn’t get rid of the intense fear, but there is a relief you feel knowing that there’s a way out (assuming you know your body well enough to know how to reliably wake yourself up).
It’s not a feeling that you can rationalize by looking at It from the outside.
It’s a primal and visceral feeling, a fight or flight situation. Sometimes you even think “hey this is a sleep paralysis, I can just ignore and go back to sleep”, but you usually can’t, and your body screams “danger, danger, danger, run away, fight back”, but you can’t move, or scream, or “wake up”. It bites of our instincts, and It’s hard to describe afterwards, but you wake up scared and bit relieved that you’re alive.
It gets worse If you hallucinate, all sorts of distorted figures and creatures appear, all fabrication of your brain of course, but since you’re half awake, they are half real as well, you can feel their presence like a sixth sense, when you look at a dark corner or a dark hallway and you know something is lurking there, sometimes you can even “touch” them if they come near enough.
I had and episode one time that I had to keep pushing a floating demonic mask away from me, I could only move my right wrist, and yes I could somewhat touch the thing, and I had this primal fear that If that thing approached my head, I would die.
It’s a really hard concept to describe, but once you experience It, you never forget the feeling.
When it hasn’t happened in a while (or it’s one of the first times) you can forget in the moment.
It’s like swimming under water and realizing you are running out of air so you start to surface, but something wraps around your foot and you can’t go up anymore.
Almost everyone feels panic at this. Your brain and body try to fight, your heart is racing. It’s the terror of being trapped in the dark, not knowing what caught you.
With that type of terror most people don’t think to just go to sleep and the problem will go away. We panic and struggle.
Imagine that feeling, except you can breathe (usually) but you are trying to scream, to move any part of you and fall out of bed, or to get someone’s attention so they’ll help you. But no one hears you, they stand near but don’t help, and you realize you are paralyzed. Bonus points if you can see and hear them (while in reality no one is there and your eyes are closed, but you don’t know this yet)
You don’t know if what is happening is real. It seems real.
Are you really paralyzed or is it a dream? If you go to sleep, will you wake up back to normal, will you die, will you wake up later still paralyzed? You want to cry because you can’t remember enough of yourself to be sure what will happen.
Time is distorted. This could be mere seconds, minutes, or hours. How long has it been?
If pink elephants in silver tutus start smoking pipes and debating the best cheeses, you feel relief. For me, the sleep demon showing up is a relief, because the brain starts to calm down and think wtf, this is a crazy dream.
At this thought you finally snap awake.
Hopefully next time you can realize sooner and control it.
I wish I had that at least once, to know how it is like.
It’s really fascinating in retrospect. The intense fear can be upsetting, but if you’re used to nightmares then you’ll be fine. I’ve always loved terrifying/surrealist art/media, so after I wake up it’s like my brain gave me a gift. (Here’s my favorite experience if you’re interested)
Also why do people open their eyes instead of keep trying to sleep?
For me, it’s poor mental health and a terrible sleep schedule lol. I can’t do it as often anymore because I have a job now, but I used to resist sleeping for some mental health reasons. So after I was too tired to want to be on my phone or anything, I’d end up staring at my ceiling thinking about whatever I was stressed out about at the time. I think that prolonged daydream-like state is what does it.
How can I get sleep paralysis? It’s been years since my last experience with it :(
Allegedly, making an active effort towards lucid dreaming increases the rate of incidence of sleep paralysis by some ridiculous amount. Which makes sense, because in lucid dreaming you’re essentially trying to trick your brain into retaining conscious processing during a dream.
Never tried myself, but if you’re not afraid of the paralysis demons, it’s a win win. You either succeed and get to lucid dream on the regular which kicks ass, or you don’t succeed and start having nightly visits from Slim Jimmy.
Sometimes when I get sick I can sense that it might happen when I go to sleep. I think it’s mainly about being the right amount of tired, though.
The other key element is having enough brain activity to keep your eyes open or to reopen them while your body tries to start REM sleep. People say stress will do that, and that tracks with my experience.
Also, try sleeping on your back. I’ve never had it while sleeping in any other position. It could vary from person to person, so maybe try sleeping in different positions.
try sleeping on your back
chronic sleep paralysis is the reason I tuck a thick blanket under me when I roll on my side, so I can’t turn to sleep on my back on accident.
The spinning wormhole at the foot of my bed was the last straw. No more ‘just ignore them and go back to sleep’ after that.
