I always find the plastic straw thing being lumped in with climate change to be really annoying. Banning plastic straws isn’t about climate change, it’s about litter and waste. The problem with them is that they were getting all over the place and fucking with ecosystems. Fighting climate change is part of environmentalism, that doesn’t mean all environmentalism goes towards fighting climate change.
The real crime of this meme is tying climate change to the hypocrisy of some elites. Yes, some are hypocrites who fly private jets while preaching climate change. they’re dumb. But the majority of my conservative friends use exactly this hypocrisy as evidence that climate change is a problem, and I see plenty of people here on Lemmy using it to justify not making any personal changes in their lives.
Banning plastic straws isn’t about climate change, it’s about litter and waste.
Climate change is also a consequence of our productivism and “waste”, by burning fossile fuels. We create too much stuff, we consume too fast that Earth can’t restore itself fast enough.
Banning plastic straws was common sense, but it’s not enough.
In other news, emissions from private jets still represent barely anything compared to emissions from freight transport of crap people want delivered at their door tomorrow.
I thought we ended up learning that giant trucks delivering items door to door was actually greener than store chains since it stops millions of people driving around idling at stop lights constantly vs one truck delivering a shit ton of items.
That’s the last leg of the journey, try again.
Well I have this giant pile of sauce here saying that you’re incorrect… Or… Lol.
Or… You don’t understand the distinction between stuff you get delivered to your door that comes to your country by plane instead of boat so you can get it ASAP and groceries?
Lol indeed.
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Or… You don’t understand the distinction between stuff you get delivered to your door that comes to your country by plane instead of boat so you can get it ASAP and groceries?
Lol indeed.
Goalposts: Moved.
My first message is clearly about air traffic and shit people get delivered
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/10627068
You’re the one who changed the conversation to only talk about the last leg of the journey that’s done by truck. Sure it’s more efficient to get your new pan delivered to your door compared to driving to the store to purchase it, but it’s not more efficient if it had to travel by plane to get to your door from China ASAP instead of traveling by boat.
Edit: At least that shut you up :)
Drop in a bucket maybe but it’s for like 0.001% of the population. Which is an insane number per capita at this scale. Magnitudes is one of the biggest things people miss when talking about emissions, one single billionaire pollutes more every single day than thousands average people.
Every single one of us has to make efforts to combat climate change but some a lot more than others.Scoffing at others who are better off has always been the favourite strategy of middle class polluters shifting responsibility.
“I am living within reasons, look at him.” Says everyone all the way up the economic ladder… 🤭
How I hate this fucking strawman is indescribable. If we ban private jets you are still not gonna stop polluting the planet for no reason.
Don’t ban them. Tax the shit out of every facet of them. I want them to pay twice as much as it’s worth to remove the carbon footprint, and then you can fly all you want!
I wonder how many of the people upvoting are themselves upper middle class, living super priviledged lives compared to the vast majority of humans on the planet.
“I am living within reasons, look at him”, has always been the favourite strategy for shifting middle class guilt.
There you go, attack your allies. Not even upper class, just upper middle class. We’re so wealthy I can afford to take my family to the local artisanal Pizza place! Our RAV4 is the hybrid edition! Can’t afford private school, but our public schools are nice!
It’s us versus them my man. I’m a lot closer to poor than I am to a private jet.
It’s us versus them my man.
Lol
