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- conservative@lemm.ee
Yanis is having a wild time with his life, the man’s worked for valve, been the greek
economyminister of finance, some other shit, now this?Context for DiEM25:
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They partially blame NATO for the Ukrainian war for playing “geopolitical games”: https://diem25.org/diem-tv/how-to-end-the-war-in-ukraine/
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All Ukrainian territory occupied up to February 2022 should fall to Russia with Ukraine expected to give up further 100km inland along this border for a demilitarized zone: https://diem25.org/diem25-has-plan-for-peace-ukraine/
I’m all for calling out the Netanyahu government in particular for the treatment of the civilian population in Gaza and fully support ending all Western military support for that campaign but I don’t trust DiEM25 based on what I know about them. That said, unless there is definitive proof of “Volksverhetzung”, a liberal democracy should even let wackos speak out their opinions.
We have Sarah Wagenknecht to output that kind of drivel on Ukraine, no need to import Varoufakis. This ban is based on the same paragraph in the FreiG that the ban against that Austrian Nazi speaking at the AfD congress is based on: If you endanger the public order in Germany having a EU passport won’t help you you still can’t enter.
Though it has to be said that the Berlin (as in the state, not federal) police and interior ministry is very trigger-happy when it comes to Israel/Palestine, and I guess they are who issued the ban, press alas isn’t being particularly detailed about any of this. Alongside with Varoufakis a couple of other planned speakers got the same treatment, among other things for saying that they would’ve participated in the October 7th attacks given the chance. Maybe he got caught in the cross-fire and courts will overturn the ban, maybe they won’t, maybe he isn’t even going to try and instead just milk the issue for political points.
EDIT: GOD FUCKING DAMNIT it seems that there never has been a ban in the first place and some police officer just made it up. The term you’re looking for is “Dienstaufsichtsbeschwerde”.
Ok so I’ve looked into various sources, and it looks like the police is concerned for the safety of ppl at the DiEM as well as civilians around it.
Because of that, they prohibited specific inflammatory and incendiary words and language as to prevent the discussion from escalating into violence in Berlin.
Listening to some of the things that were said before they issued the ban, it is clear that some of the speeches were radical or very much pushing the envelope.
Now there is some confusion about where the ban on specific language came from - police refers to the Senate, Senate refers to other parties (and that’s not great), but it’s not as if the police just felt like it or as if there was some shady stuff going on behind the scenes.
I am a German from Berlin, so I am very concerned when I hear stuff like this, and that’s why I had to look it up and dig into it to some degree. I wish the international press did a more thorough job, because if it didn’t take me that long to find a different account, that means they didn’t do their job and I don’t like that.
Doing a thorough job risks the sensational headlines though.
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Germany hast lost the plot.
It’s goosestepping backwards at an alarming rate.
Maybe read what he wrote first.
I did. Big fan of him. He’s anti genocide, that’s the problem Germany has with him and all the other critics.
Never again for Germany means never again genociding Jews. That’s the lesson they’ve learned. They did not draw any universal learnings from the atrocities their grandparents committed.
It’s insane how the country is backing Istael when they’re committing a genocide and how they go full fascist even against Jewish people speaking out against the genocide. And having the audacity to say they do that „to protect Jews“.
Germany is completely lost. The public will go out on the streets to protest against the AFD, but they’re literally backing up a genocidal ethno supremacist apartheid state. The only line that AFD seems to cross is that they’re also against leftist white Germans and that they’re antisemites. Brown people do not seem to fit into that equation.
Are there other sources on this? It sounds outrageous but would be nice to have an independent confirmation.
Nothing outrageous about banning a liar and propagandist from spreading lies and propaganda in our country.
Ffs… he even published the speech he was going to give there and it was hard to swallow so much bullshit. On the plus side, he basically answered questions about Hamas atrocities and their threat to Israel with (paraphrasing) “I condemn atrocities in general but here I celebrate the people that attacked Israel” and “What threat? Israel is only afraid because of rampant anti-semitism in Europe and America”.
So we know were he stands and if you ask me he can go get fucked with the Hamas buddies he supports.
Found the Nazi