• LeTak@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    This problem did also exist on the 3DS but with the difference that you need a modded 3DS to copy the game. We can do nothing other than wait for Nintendo to respond to the first ban that happens because of identical certs.

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      3 months ago

      Nintendo Switch cartridge based games have a file that’s unique to each individual cartridge. The dumper and accompanying flash cart make use of that file. If Nintendo detects two people playing while connected to the internet with the “same” cartridge, there’s a high chance of them banning both consoles. So any used game anyone buys after this point runs the risk that someone dumped it, maybe an old owner who resold, maybe someone who bought and returned it, etc, which means even a legitimate user who hasn’t even heard of the flash cart could get banned. There’s also the potential issue of people using the tech in the flash cart once people figure out how to use those chips to sell bootlegged reproduction cartridges that have the same issue

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        3 months ago

        Nintendo knows the PR hit for penalizing innocent customers would be pretty bad.

        If a card ID is used by only two people I would expect it to be ignored, or if a device ID is only associated with one dupe card I would expect that to be ignored.

        It’s the devices that use multiple dupe cards or the card IDs that are used by thousands of people that will get banned.

        It will be interesting to see where they draw the line but its unlikely that they want too many false positives.

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    3 months ago

    I crack up at all the people on Lemmy insisting that this isn’t pirating or about pirating. Yes it is. I pirate too, don’t bullshit me guys. This isn’t about Nintendo being an evil company, cause they keep their games exclusive, just like Microsoft does with PC games and nobody bitches. This isn’t about Nintendo being selfish, it’s about people who want to copy switch games, mod them, share them, and act as if it’s a thing the copyright holder should be happy about lol

    Again I pirate, so let’s be honest, this whole thing is about ways to easily pirate and backup switch games, not the integrity of gaming.

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      3 months ago

      Ummm… If you own the game, making backups is perfectly legal. This isn’t piracy, this is hacking. I agree that most movie and game downloading IS PIRACY. This is not. It’s piracy if someone rips the files and distributes it. If they rip it for themselves, it’s not.

      So yeah, it actually is a murky area here. You’d be going after everyone under the assumption of illegal activity vs actually targeting those commiting piracy.

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        3 months ago

        The point is that this is not going to stop with someone backing up their games. Come on now let’s be honest. The internet is full of game ROMS that are “for backup only” again, come the fuck on. I’m not against pirating, but to say this isn’t it is just silly lol

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          3 months ago

          Then it should be Nintendo’s problem to come up with a business model that doesn’t infringe upon their customers’ property rights, not society’s problem to give up everybody’s rights just to enable Nintendo’s DRM-based business model!

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      3 months ago

      Wow you are biased. Piracy is a service problem. Therefore platforms with more service issues become targets for more advanced and rampant piracy. Nintendo basically deserved it. Not an honest people’s problem that it takes going that far to make the platform act as user friendly as they expected it to by default in the first place.

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        3 months ago

        Of course, but in this case the piracy is more complex than just buying. The issue is much more how this can and might affect buying customers.

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          3 months ago

          This case is not about pirating yourself but about a tool for creating more pirate copies, which will make it more convenient for end users, whether they will pay for it or not.

          The issue you mentioned will likely not hit pirates negatively. As someone mentioned it’s not unique to this Nintendo console, so it’s the result of them not learning.