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Meanwhile the US is sending arms to Israel to bomb the lethally dangerous Palestinian children. And the EU is still debating whether Russia means it or not.
I think the EU knows full well that Putin means it.
I also think Putin has a huge amount of kompromat on EU leaders due to his vast intelligence machine and they are aware that he could leak any of one their dirty secrets any time he wants via proxies.
Secrets and political careers over filthy Ukrainian lives. Sounds about right for politicians👌
Sorry ukraine. The republicans want you dead and the war has been going on too long to stay inside the attention span of the average person, so they don’t care anymore.
Ukraine. We still support you. I’m sorry.
Last year around this time Russia was advancing every day by the 10s of meters. Now some advances are 1-2 km.
The Ukrainians announcing this means things are a lot more dire than what we’ve been led to believe.
Meanwhile, the Russian bought GOP continues to block and slow military aid to Ukraine.
Is the narrative finally shifting? If you said this two months ago everyone called you a tankie.
If you said what? “What if we don’t support Ukraine?”
Why not just supporting them.instead, so this does not happen?
It will be very dire. Russia has a lot of people to throw at the problem. That’s how the they won Ww2. They didn’t win based on tactics. They threw more people at the slaughter. I’m just shocked the average Russian has had enough of this yet.
Russia is just producing more weapons this is not a manpower problem. And after using Ukraine as meat puppets to tank the Russian economy we are now abandoning them as we did with past allies such as the Kurds.
I’ve been shocked at how little ammo we can produce. I always assumed America had more capacity to produce ammo. I get stingers and javelins are limited runs but 155mm ammo seems like something we should be able to produce in large quantities but we can’t.
We can definitely produce large quantities. The problem is that we are giving Ukraine our old garbage to fight with. They are two years into the war and still haven’t received F16’s
If we were serious we would have given Ukraine some good stuff at the start and they would have won before Russia was able to ramp up their weapons production.
I wouldn’t call the 155 ammo garbage. It’s just from our stockpile It isn’t as easy as hand them something. It’s takes training to use the weapon correctly. Most everything we’ve given is current issue for the United States military. You just can’t had them an f16. They need the equipment to use the f16. They need the training to fly the f16
Sure but it certainly doesn’t take two years.
The point remains. Especially at the start of the invasion we just gave Ukraine old scraps. We did not give them what they needed to win, only to stall.
I would say what we gave was scarps. It’s all current issue hardware. Nothing was obsolete.
That’s been part of the problem. We can degrade our ability to fight by giving it to Ukraine.
The large gap is the 155mm ammo. We can’t keep up with that.
I remember from Churchill’s memories that he mentions as a rule of thumb (based on his experiences in both world wars) that a country needs something like 4 years to put the ammo industry up the conflict requirements… anyway, this isn’t (yet) ww2 by 2 orders of magnitude.
I incorrectly assumed we had many factories running at smaller capacities. Turns out we shuttered those to save money.
I get things like cruise missiles are done in large batches but just assumed 155mm had several lines.
Nah, they tuned their tactics a lot, that’s why they went from losing every battle with a 10r:1g ratio to win them with a 3r:1g ratio.
You might want to see who they threw into WW2.
Hint: It was the Ukrainians. The ability for Ukrainians to survive is epic. Still, we need to support them to minimize their pain, we don’t want them to suffer WW2-like losses again or be forced to bear such burdens for Russia in the future.
