• IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
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    Don’t buy a phone on random creditors that install this shit. This has nothing to do with Google.

    You going to ditch Linux because they support remote management too?

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      This has nothing to do with Google.

      Google welded anti-consumer logic into the kernel. Of course that’s on Google. Just like Intel started making CPUs with a management engine that can only work against non-corporate consumers, basically saying fuck the individuals’ needs… putting individuals at unconscionable risk without their knowledge or consent.

      Consumers have decisions to make. Is a consumer happy to feed a supplier who sells them something that works against them? Some are. I’m not. Going forward they fail to earn my business because they have too many masters.

      You going to ditch Linux because they support remote management too?

      Linux is not locked down. Users can remove anything they want from it.

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        If you get Linux from work it school it uses the same exact tech. No, you can’t remove it. You don’t own the phone. That’s how credit works. Don’t like it, buy the phone. You are just pissed that creditors are using it. Welding against the consumers 🤦‍♂️.

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      I’m OOP, I bought this phone outright. Google seems to be installing this on phones by default (the actual pattern based on people’s comments seems to be more recent phones, but not all have it).

      It’s even shipping within de-googled phones, at some base ASOP level (or the hardware, I dunno, not that knowledgeable), as some GrapheneOS use reported having it on their phones too.

      I’m pissed because: 1. It’s installed when it shouldn’t be, 2. Gives inappropriate power to creditors, which hurts the most vulnerable.

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        Imagine acting like having a $1000 phone is a right. If you didn’t want creditors shutting down your phone, pay for it. Apparently this is an undue burden these days.

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      Even if this would help (I’m OOP, and according to some commenters it’s still installed on their phones running other OSes), I’m still outraged at the concept and the fact it’s installed by default.

      Plus, “just” installing a different OS is not a terribly mass-market friendly thing.

      It should be regulated against by governments. The EU is slowly heading in the right direction. We’re letting these tech companies do whatever the fuck they want to.

      Most people don’t have the time or knowledge necessary to make their digital lives entirely private.

      This has “stop global warming by making personal choices” vibes to it.

      I want privacy by default, and I’m not going to apologise for that.