No offense (sounds like you questions were answered anyway), but I’m going to remove your post since c/asklemmy is not for support! Feel free to DM or use c/Lemmy if you need any more help!

Hell yeah! I think it’s incredibly important to understand the indigenous history of our local regions if we want to be good neighbors and allies to them. Same themes as always wherever you are in North America (disease wipes them out, genocide via killings and removals etc…), but being able to name names and dates helps bring it in close.

Maybe the mayor of your city was complicit ! Or maybe there was a town near you that had a good relationship with a local tribe! In my area there was a lake that was an important food source that was drained to become farmland. Fortunately it is now being restored.

From my reading, white settlers were not really even unwelcome, the people were excited to tap into the wealth and opportunity the settlers were bringing with them. The fact that they have been excluded from that since the beginning is disgusting. I don’t think it is too late to correct the exploitation of indigenous people and land, and if we can build a society/cultures capable of that, most other things (regarding economic equity) will fall into place alongside it.

Im not seeing an issue with the spirit of your post, maybe the other poster can clarify.

I would take a beat to reflect on the fact that not all American Indians are necessarily radicalized against the US. Doesn’t mean a radical position is incorrect, but it’s important to avoid a “white savior” trope or something like that (not saying youre doing this by posting on Lemmy, but in a different context).

It could come off like “yeah they should put their bodies on the line, and fight for what’s right!”, but if youre gonna talk like that it’s important that youre out there with or even in front of them doing the same thing. Once again I don’t think a random comment online is all that serious, but I think you and I have the same energy so I’m just thinking it through. We obviously dont want to harm or offend our comrades with the way we discuss these things!

You can turn against settlerism and stand with your indigenous neighbors! It doesn’t have to be “we did this”. It can instead be “we [American Indians and anti-colonial non-Indians] stand together against the efforts of the United States to subjugate us and the land and resources we live on!”

Reading the book “Custer Dies for Your Sins” after I saw it featured in the Smithsonian really helped get my head straight.

tribal members have been citizens far longer than the United States has even existed

I understand the point you are making here, although I want to add that most American Indians were not United States citizens until 1924.

The United States is not their country, but a force that is occupying their land. It is more complicated than that, but it needs to be a part of the conversation, in my opinion.

If anyone is interested in the liberation of American Indians/First Nations I encourage you to get a copy and read “Custer Died for Your Sins” today!

Also, if you don’t want to be a colonizer, the first step is to actually study the history of the people in your local region. The history of indigenous people and settlers is not necessarily separate, but intertwined.

In order to stand together with tribes, most of whom gave been held in poverty and disrespected (and worse!) by the United States, it is important to thoroughly understand the topics at hand so we can bring about the proper restitution. Despite the efforts of settlers to erase these people and their history, we have the opportunity to stand with them and write a new chapter.

I don’t think you meant it that way, but there are many many lands that belong to American Indians, but are not federally recognized due to:

• never having been ceded in a treaty
• the US government outright breaking the treaty

I’m also down to go with “all the land is theirs regardless as the treaties were signed under duress”.

Since 1492!!!

Both of those countries took notes from the United States, particularly with respect to the success of the genocide of American Indians.

Isn’t it kind of Trump’s way of doing business? That’s exactly where things are headed for people who stand up against him.

I know it’s not directly relevant to Congress, but the Minneapolis mayor outright said “I am not in favor of abolishing ICE” today.

Anyone who has read theory and applied to their worldview knows that class consciousness will naturally arise as the contradictions of capitalism continue to sharpen. I might be out ahead of some people are at, but I notice among my friends that what I say takes root and males more sense to them weeksnor months after the conversation.

Why are you calling me blind? Why are you so closed minded about soemthibgbso inconsequential like “the precise amount of praise wants from each party”?

This rude behavior is ripped straight from The Everything App^TM

We all started somewhere! Nobody is immune to propaganda.

He wants it from people who are useful to him. I’m not blind.

Look at how he treated Zelensky and Machado. They come in and suck up, but he doesn’t see them as useful.

Other leaders who openly dislike him (and he dislikes back, on a political level), such as Mamdani, Sheinbaum, and even Kim Jong Un, more easily get on his good side without sucking up (they sometimes throw a little praise his way, as you’ve observed).

When you take it too far it falls flat

Yeah sure either way he isn’t into it.

Even during the founding of the US there were abolitionists, anti-racists and what we would call today communist and anarchists. US history has been driven by the white supremacist’s agenda, but there has always been a strong push against it.

Totally

I think many ‘Americans’ do see the US as a bastion of freedom for refugees and people of all races. That has been the promoted image of the US, obviously we know the state doesn’t adhere to that idealized version but many people here do seem to see that image as the ‘true America’.

Right, many people do see it that way. Particularly with the resources and modern interpretations we have available in 2026, we can look back through history and see how that was a lie (or at least “propaganda” of some form). It’s fine if you want it to be true, but in reality the US constitution did not build a truly democratic government structure (this was by design). I think current events (beyond the Donald Trump presidencies) clearly illustrate that nothing short of a new constitutional convention will be able to resolve this.

If there were a new constitution, it would no longer be the “United States of America” as we know it today, of course, it would be something else entirely.

It also isn’t effective, Trump doesn’t actually respect people who grovel toward him, especially if they aren’t useful to him.

I’m not sure whether the quantity of deportations would have to do with the reorg, or if it has more to do with overall executive policy (or other factors).

Regardless I don’t think there needs to be a dedicated police agency dedicated to the internal enforcement of immigration. Whatever enforcent does take place does not need to be conducted by a militarized agency (which, is my primary concern with being part of “DHS”). ICE is already have been shit for a long time, not to mention the 2018 calls for “abolish ICE” because of the “kids in cages” (which were built under the Obama admin) which was already the correct call.

They don’t offer anything useful, even when they don’t have Trump’s trillion dollar funding package. Toss them and start over, it isn’t even a big deal.

Why so rude? What is even the “deep end”?

If any suggestion of “consider this other point of view” provokes such a reaction, I guess you aren’t wrong, but isn’t that simple closed-mindedness on your part?

Is there anything I can clarify about what I meant?