The company already owned the cars, boss :) Tesla the car manufacturer and Tesla the car dealership are both the same company, that single company is publicly traded under the symbol $TSLA.

Here’s the Canadian statute. Notice that the jail terms are vastly longer if the deception influence the stock market in any way. IDK, I’m not a lawyer.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/section-380.html

That unhappy little thought traipsed through my mind.

It’s like culture-jamming. By ruining the experience of selling EVs for other dealerships, Tesla can encourage the already rampant suspicion among other companies’ sales staff that EVs are unsellable or just not worth the hassle.

If Tesla gets called out for it, all the better. If they’re severely punished, better still! They can use those headlines to prove in other markets that they are the target of unfair investigations abroad, which helps the CEO’s political ambitions.

Yeah, the automotive chessboard is real confusing right this minute.

Hearing my pride and joy get called a third world country hurts pretty bad. But I honestly can’t correct you, our judiciary, something broke? Folks used to trust judges. I’m old enough to remember those days.

I’ve stood before a judge, got my ass handed to me, and I took the beating without complaint because everybody respected the judge (and let’s be real, I knew I did what I did, it was speeding and I am true to my name, I was absolutely speeding). Those days are gone.

Boss, you just described an absolutely bog-standard type of fraud XD If that is what occurred, people will go to prison.

The Canadian program also has, you know, rules. Rebates are marked as commercial or consumer. Every sales record I saw for the Teslas in question here, they were entirely consumer-grade from what I saw. So, if Tesla was selling the cars to themselves, they applied for the wrong type of rebate.

“Billionaires hate this one trick!”

I wondered the same thing.

Spite? Muscle memory, from when he wasn’t a billionaire? Or we might see a self-selection thing happening. The folks who have any point where they are sated, those folks, we never even notice those folks, they do good in business and never get public attention. Billionaires are only the folks where the chase broke some limiting factor in them, they have no satiation point, and so folks notice them.

His kid isn’t dead, she just doesn’t go by that name anymore, and it is supremely dickish to treat her like that.

Yeah, so… Let’s follow the money, right? This is how I make sense of basically everything in life.

Stellantis gets paid by SiriusXM for every unit they ship with this crap pre-installed. SiriusXM gets paid by either themselves, when they advertise SiriusXM membership to drivers, or they get paid by advertisers. The Mopar Extended Warranty, I bet Mopar is paying for the ad placements.

I’d bet dollars to donuts it’s the free trial for SiriusXM.

When this happened on Jeep vehicles, an apparent Stellantis employee responded on a thread about it. Here’s what they said:

“Thank you for tagging us and we are certainly sorry to hear of the frustration this has caused you. At this time, we advise that customers click the large [X] in the corner to close out and clear stored notifications from the vehicle. It should also be noted that ads are part of your contractual agreement with Sirius XM, but we are working on the frequency. Thank you for your patience.”

Lol, they still haven’t “worked on” the frequency 534 days later.

I think you’re exactly right

The market is already doing that for you - year over year sales for Dodge down 29% in 2024.

If the early fan reaction to the electric Scatpack are any indication, people won’t be lining up to buy it, so expect more of the same.

Get ready to hear that Coca Cola jingle every time you feel thirsty.

If you haven’t tried a second Kia dealership yet, I’d recommend that, too!

Give them your VIN over the phone, ask to schedule the repair under warranty. Might be able to save yourself the headache of going through corporate if the next dealership is less shady than the first.

That’s my assumption, that it’s some legal dodge. Like “we didn’t wire that light, so if you get in trouble for it, technically, you modded your Cybertruck, because we installed an inert lump of plastic and not an off-roading light. YOU installed an off-roading light.” That sort of deal.

The strange thing, all the other manufacturers do ship pre-wired offroad lights. There’s just something about the Cybertruck one that isn’t up to regulatory standard, I’m thinking.

I feel like my Toyota, the towing limit on the spec sheet doesn’t mean “after this number, the hitch snaps off.” For legal reasons, I need to state that that is only a guess, and that I have not tested it on anything but private roads.

For gods sake, the limit should have at least a 25% buffer. 1% buffer is madness. Toyotas, we don’t even know what the buffer is, it’s large enough that I’ve never met anyone who got nerve-wrackingly close to it. I’ve certainly never met a Toyota driver who’s frame or hitch has snapped off. I’ve now seen like 5 Cybertrucks with the whole towing assembly just tumbled across asphalt.

Please tell him he is perfect! He can sponge up all of my attentions

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Blew the whole budget on the Tesla, didn’t have any money left over for sand XD

You’re also starting fights over on another thread of mine so… I guess this scratches some itch for you!

Boss, you do you. Call me if you need a tow.

That’s part of the story (though, why did Tesla ship a luxury truck with such trash tires?). Weight is a actually good thing in light snow. If you have low traction, you can actually add weight to the truck bed to get better traction. Folks in my neck the woods put sandbags and stuff in their beds to do exactly that.

Keep your eyes on what the tires are doing in the video. See how they’re rolling at all the wrong times, and then locking up at all the wrong times? That’s an electronic system failing, that’s probably the Automatic Traction Control, and evidently it doesn’t know what the fuck to do with snow.