• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    They didn’t barely kill him. He was dead for like a weekend. They killed the witches properly.

    Except for the Sanderson sisters. They took a couple tries.

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    3 months ago

    They killed him cause he told them to love each other. That’ll get you killed just about anywhere. Humans love to hate.

    That said the air of ‘I’m special’ didn’t help.

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      3 months ago

      No…they killed him because he represented a risk to the standing power structure.

      They strung him up next to common criminals to lower his status, to make his whole idea seem insignificant.

      No comment on weather he was supernatural.

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        3 months ago

        Romans didn’t kill him his own religion did, with special emphasis that he wasn’t their messiah.

        Rome specifically washed their hands of the whole incident since he didn’t break any standing laws. They imprisoned him for the reason you called out and specifically didn’t touch him for the same.

        The two reasons I called out were why he was killed. There are even Roman records to the fact.

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              It kinda feels like you’re pushing an anti-Semitic narrative here instead of trying to argue the history.

              The Jewish people were not some minor cult. The story does go that the Jewish authorities did argue for Jesus to be executed, part of it definitely being because of his “king of the Jews” thing. Judaism as a religion and The Jewish people are not 1 and the same in context, Jesus famously was not anti-Roman and argued his teachings were of the mind.

              The Romans were famous for incorporating local government structures and religions as long as you paid and served.

              Yes according to the myth the Jewish Authorities ( again, integrated and part of the Roman governing of the area) pushed for him to be executed for claiming to be the king of the Jews (political) which would upset Roman rule.

              Again, this is of course assuming you believe the myth that actually isn’t written about or recorded at all until a couple generations later.

              There aren’t Roman records of the event until later, after the fact. From people who weren’t there, but heard about it from people who were or heard it from folks who were … etc.

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                3 months ago

                Christianity was a minor Jewish cult at the time, and only really expanded due to Greek Egyptians latching onto it prior to Constantine.

                The Jews in were major figures in the Roman Provence which is why they were able to kill someone who was troubling them.

                I get that this comes off as anti-Jewish but it’s really anti-religion. An ingroup killed an outgroup cause it was politically convenient; religion is just one more ingrouping.

                As to the lack of contemporary sources you can thank both Constantine and Theodosius. This is why I upvoted your first comment.

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                  3 months ago

                  I get that this comes off as anti-Jewish but it’s really anti-religion.

                  This is the problem when your world view is guided by hating a thing. It make you biased and bigoted. Ok so you’re bigoted against all religions, but when you talk about a specific religion your logic perfectly aligns with those that are only bigoted against that particular religion.

                  So does being bigoted towards all religions make you a better person than someone that’s bigoted towards only a single religion? You’re both using identical rationalizations, does does applying bigoted rationalizations more broadly make you more or less of a bigot?