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Three soldiers pounce on a shepherd sitting outside his sheep pen. They knock him over and then one of them shoots him to death at point-blank range. Fakher Jaber, a father of four, was suspected of involvement in an incident that probably never happened
On the last day of his life, two and a half weeks ago, the shepherd and his wife got up at 5:30 A.M., as usual, and immediately went out together to milk the ewes. With their flock of 120 sheep, their work is never done. Maryam recalls now that they didn’t manage to eat breakfast before the daily Ramadan fast began. After about two hours they finished milking. Fakher took the sheep out to graze and she began to make cheese from the milk, which they sell in Nablus to help make their living.
After he returned the sheep to their pen, Fakher sat down near it, removed the Quran from his pocket and began to read from it. Maryam finished making dinner. She remembers that everything was normal and relatively peaceful that afternoon, in this beleaguered community, living under the constant threat of invasions by settlers. Suddenly Maryam heard shouting. She rushed outside and saw three Israelis in uniform yelling at and wrestling with her husband. One of the men was masked, which led her to believe that they were settlers – of the type that frequently assault the shepherding communities, graze their livestock on the residents’ lands and water their flocks from their wells.
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Sadly, until the IDF starts investigating and prosecuting their members for war crimes (and stops assigning people without the required education, skills and psychological traits to essentially do police duties) - some parts of the IDF will continue to perform the role of recruiting Palestinians into extremist and militant organizations. :(
I would not be surprised if one of the dead man’s relatives decides at some point to take up weapons.
The IDF: “Oh no! They’re reading! Only Hamas reads!”
Zionist == Nazi
No the Nazis had fashion, and still at least had German culture. The parts they didn’t burn for being too philosophical or gay.
Zionists don’t even have that much. They’re worse.
No. Just don’t. Don’t be that guy. Or girl.
That’s the thing, the Nazis are as bad as you think they are (worse and stupider, probably)
Can we just charge them with war crimes already?
You can’t. Those guns and bombs they use, we pay for 'em. If we charge them with war crimes, we are charging ourselves with war crimes. And we don’t want that, don’t we? Just vote for a lesser evil clown or a billionaire racist idiot and make yourself feel like you’ve done your part. It’s easier to sleep that way. It’s democracy© we’re protecting after all. What’s a few thousand more killed for something this precious.
♫♫♫ OH SAY CAN YOU SEE…
Did someone record this or how do we know exactly what happened?
Sounds like the wife saw it happen if she saw them wrestling. Or are you doubting her recounting of events?
In a witness vs witness situation I doubt everything, yes. How should we know who is saying the truth? Because of the heart warming story about how they life their live I should route for the shepherd? I do not. I usually doubt everything, always, regardless who says it or what it is about. To me, this is hearsay. The other side was not even asked to tell us their side.
You’re right. We should make sure that there is a thorough investigation by some kind of neutral third party to reveal the truth. I propose as a first step to establishing all the evidence that the Israelis should get the fuck out of the West Bank. They are obviously a biased party with a vested interest in this. So they should not have any fucking authority in the area just in case they try any shenanigans.
Ah yes, because that strategy worked so wonderfully in 2005 with Gaza.
You know what, that tired bullshit argument has a point. Yes, to avoid a repeat of what happened after the Gaza pullout, the Israelis should take some additional corrective steps: do not intentionally prop up extremists to undermine the PA, like they did with Hamas, formally recognize Palestine, sign a treaty, pay reparations, give refugees the right to return, and commit to a policy of non intervention while the Palestinians fight out whatever internal civil war will inevitably follow the establishment of their newly liberated society (like the Irish civil war of 1922-23). That should probably do it. But there might be other concessions that they might have to accept, ultimately fair game in the name of establishing a lasting and just peace after 70 years of oppression of the Palestinians.
That’s great in fairy land. In reality that’s going to cause more terrorist attacks directed at Israel, as said terrorists can now operate freely in the area.
As for reparations, how about Israel work out a plan to ween the West Bank off the Israeli provided resources they’re already heavily reliant on instead?
On the right to return, you’re even more confused. They can return to he west bank all they want. What they actually want is to return to where Israel is and for it to stop existing.
Idealistic bullshit is great online. It gets you plenty of up votes, when applied to reality, you’ll find it quite lacking.
Ok buddy. Tell me what you imagine is the basis for a realistic long term peaceful solution. Because the “idealistic bullshit” that I’m proposing is the stuff that actually brought peace in Europe after two fucking word wars and in places like Ireland after many decades of troubles. I.e., if tried and tested solutions are not realistic, tell me what is. Here’s the catch though: you’re not allowed to argue for ethnic cleansing.
What they actually want is to return to where Israel is and for it to stop existing.
Why do you think that is? Because where Israel is was their home that was stolen. They have stolen more and more territory, even just in recent days they have annexed land that is according to all treaties supposed to be Palestinian land.
On the last day of his life, two and a half weeks ago, the shepherd and his wife got up at 5:30 A.M., as usual, and immediately went out together to milk the ewes.
Can we please stop with this dramatization?
Edit: All the downvoters probably did poorly in social studies. Did you all pay attention when they taught you about journalistic integrity? Judging by how most of you argue, I’m guessing you slept through that just like the lessons on citing.
Humanizing Palestinians by accurately recounting what happened? Now this is going way too far.
Hamas beheaded babies and set entire civilian families on fire.
If we’re just making comparisons to justify murder, do you know what’s worse than murdering 7000 people? Murdering 30000 people. But being better by comparison doesn’t make you right. There will always be someone worse to compare yourself to.
Oh cool 6 months in and the beheaded baby bots are still going. Nobody told you that’s all fake yet?
The quoted article is a bit short on details of what the shepherd was supposed to have done.
It’s West Bank colonists that israel now employs as soldiers to terrorize Palestinians. They make up any story they want and the IDF will claim it as the truth and declare the soldiers innocent
Reminder that the IDF is a terrorist organisation.
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You mean receives billions in welfare. The Iron Dome is an American system.
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https://www.rafael-usa.com/programs/iron-dome/
Rafael and Raytheon are producing it both are American companies. That israel is field testing their weapons doesn’t mean it’s israeli innovation. Furthermore America is giving free handouts to israel to buy these missiles from them.
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You are right I found their link on top. Since I read America supplies many interceptor missiles I thought that it was America made.
The funding very much does seem to be American though
The initial funding and development of the Iron Dome system was provided and undertaken by Israel. This allowed for the deployment of the first two Iron Dome systems. Subsequently, funding for additional Iron Dome systems—along with repeated funding for the supply of the interception missiles—has been provided by the United States.[From 2011 to 2021, the US contributed a total of US$1.6 billion to the Iron Dome defense system, with another US$1 billion approved by the US Congress in 2022.
Here is an archive link if you are hitting a paywall.
I found it weird that an Israeli publication is reporting on the horrors of the IOF.
Haaretz is weird. Many articles are the some old israeli propaganda but they have some left wing writers which write and investigate israeli war crimes and even articles against their government.
The person who writes the article makes all the difference on Haaretz.
