• Shampiss@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    I know you have good intentions, but I just want to point that animals getting killed is part of the natural cycle and it happens in the wilderness literally millions of times a day.

    That’s the worst argument towards veganism.

    The two best arguments in my opinion are: the meat industry produces a ton of CO2, and we could feed more people with the same amount of land.

    I’m not entirely in support of veganism since I think that some animal protein is essential for the average person’s diet. But I certainly agree with the 2 reasons above.

    • markstos@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      The average American gets about twice the protein they need.

      Nearly all foods have some protein, so it’s difficult to have a protein deficiency without a calorie deficiency.

      Animal protein comes with cholesterol, which no plant-protein has and people tend to have too much of.

      Plant-based protein from whole food comes with fiber, which people tend to have too little of.

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      5 months ago

      I think the ethical argument is the strongest.

      “animals getting killed is part of the natural cycle”

      The 80 billion animals a year we kill are in farms and not part of the natural cycle (96% of the land mammals by weight are human or farmed animals) but if you meant to say there is wild animals that kill other animals and that makes it morally correct then what do you think of lions raping each other? Is that now also morally justified?