• JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    B52s were mas produced, only 21 b2s were built. B2s started in 97, after icbms. Which are you taking about?

    So are stealth bombers effective? If so, you don’t need hypersonics against land targets. If not, China is wasting billions on the h20. You can’t have it both ways.

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          They clearly don’t. Hypersonics can hit targets from a huge range in minutes, and they’re nearly impossible to stop. This has been proven in actual use. They’re also much easier to hide, cheaper to maintain and to produce. In fact, hypesonic weapons is precisely what you’d use to take out bombers on an airfield. These are just a few obvious things off top of my head. There’s been plenty written on the subject by many experts. Maybe go read up on that instead of trolling here?

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              It’s like asking why have a hammer and a screwdriver. Absolutely incredible that you can’t understand that different tools have different uses. I mean you’ve literally just disproved your whole thesis here. If bombers served the same purpose as hypersonics, then China would just build stealth bombers. Instead, they’re producing both. The reality is that you’re just coping with the fact that US is falling behind technologically.

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                5 months ago

                What use case does a hypersonic fill that the US needs? Seems like you were saying ground air defense (like s400) penetration, but that’s what stealth bombers do. Or if stealth bombers don’t do that, what do they do?

                Anyway, why do you think is the reason the US doesn’t have hypersonics, and why is that reason is the same as why they won’t put shark skin in their engines?

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                  5 months ago

                  Nobody has actually seen a stealth bomber do that in practice. In fact, this is what happened last time US tried using one

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_F-117A_shootdown

                  Anyway, why do you think is the reason the US doesn’t have hypersonics, and why is that reason is the same as why they won’t put shark skin in their engines?

                  Because US is technologically behind due to having a piss poor education system and not being able to poach talent from around the world the way it used to. US is a decaying empire that’s spiralling the drain right now.

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                    5 months ago

                    Check the operational history section on the b2 page, it’s got a bunch of stuff since 2000.

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_B-2_Spirit

                    But again, why would Russia and China be designing/building stealth bombers if they don’t actually work?

                    I agree about the education system. But they’ve still got a ton of engineering talent. China is catching up, but they’re retreading tech the US has had for a while. But it is still very impressive how fast they are catching up.