Your opinion isn’t fact. Bro, you are a well-known duopoly worship promoter. I don’t take anything you say seriously. Republicans suck. Democrats suck. That’s my opinion. You have yours. We’re never gonna agree.
Ooh, I’m well-known. Shame it’s for something made-up. I’ve long been an absolute crank about ranked voting and breaking the two-party system.
I have not seen any alleged third party fall so consistently to one side, as libertarians backing republicans. You can glibly denounce ‘both sides,’ but so does one side, and it’s the side y’all routinely vote for. Pretending the outright fascists are only as bad as the ineffectual liberals is standard rhetoric for those fascists. I have no love for the democratic party, but they’re a thousand times better than the bastards currently snatching people off the street. Your beef with people who want cheaper healthcare needs to be fundamentally distinct from your beef with people openly drooling about rounding up sixty million Americans.
Observable reality is not a matter of opinion. On some subjects, you can speak your mind, and be wrong. Claiming any great bulk of self-professed libertarians are-too distinct from and unaligned with generic conservatives is observably wrong. You know who else claims that? Conservatives. The ones who aren’t fully in the cult act like there’s some silent mass of real conservatives, like however we pretend they were thirty years ago, and they’re gonna ride over the hill and put all this extremism behind us. But no. It’s just the extremism, and a facade.
The facade for this group is a lot of high-minded academic language to say, let rich people wield unchecked power. Pleasant-sounding excuses to eliminate societal guardrails against discrimination, poverty, hunger, and child laborers who can’t count to ten.
Actual pragmatic property-fetishism would still acknowledge the diminishing marginal utility of money and tax the hell out of rich people. A handful of guys being able to shape an entire country is antithetical to any visions of decentralized order. Everyone does better when that excess is spent on infrastructure.
Actual economy-uber-alles thinking would demand a high minimum wage, so people can buy things. If a business can’t afford to pay a comfortable living wage, they fail, oh well.
Actual individualist fixation would expect amazing schools for everyone, so no brilliant budding minds are doomed to obscurity. Do you want meritocracy, or do you want to measure how rich some kid’s parents were? Some beat the odds, but most don’t, because that’s what odds are.
A society arranged on your stated ideals would look nothing like what you advocate. What you advocate looks an awful lot like what republicans advocated, before they went mask-off. A gun in every fridge and private school and deregulated everything and tax cuts tax cuts tax cuts. These are just demands from hierarchy, to increase hierarchy.
I’ll keep voting third party. Thanks! By the way, you aren’t just a “crank,” you’re an outright dick to people on Lemmy. I don’t know what your deal is, but you’re easily one of the biggest jerks I’ve ever witnessed on Lemmy. I’ve seen you advocate violence, stalking, troll accusations, etc. I don’t know what you got going on in your real life, but dude…
The problem with that, is on the few times you aren’t ranting or calling people names, I can’t take ya seriously. And I know you’re ok with that too. So all good.
There are fun chaos trolls, ragebaiters, etc. But you, oy. You are the unhappiest person I have ever come across on the internet. And I’m fucking old. So I think you are either fake and you are trying to confuse people because you work for foreign agents, or you have some condition that makes you chronically bitchy. Either way, nah, I don’t believe a word you are saying. And you worship the duopoly.
I invite you to bring receipts for any of those shrill claims, because it’s inevitably going to be a couple shrugs about Charlie Kirk, and then nothing. Glib frustration with infuriating nonsense, which you’ve somehow twisted up into lurid allegations about… stalking? I cannot even guess what the fuck inspired that fantasy. And you put ‘troll accusations’ in the same breath. Bit of a disconnect, yeah? Arson, murder, jaywalking? I gladly admit to calling people trolls, when they’re trolling.
Like when they just make shit up and don’t have an argument.
Like this directed abuse in the absence of fact.
At no point were you asked to believe me. That denial is a confession. It speaks to a worldview fixated on interpersonal loyalty, where things are true because a trusted person says them. You’ll never agree with me because claims from the outgroup are automatically wrong. That tribalism is the core of conservatism. You don’t have an answer, and that doesn’t bother you, because you’ve already drawn me as the soyjak, and apparently that’s all you think there is to reality. What a shame there’s no way for opposing claims to be settled by lookin’.
Anyone can look at your post history, you’re removed comments, and see how you are. Brah, you know it and you’re proud of it. I don’t even know why you are denying it, since you wear it as a badge of pride.
Ohhh, Universal Monk slandered me again. No, an obvious exaggeration about instance-owners escalating their discouragement against Lemmy’s most block-evading troll is not somehow an endorsement of crimes, you adorable little dingus. You adorable vote-manipulating sockpuppet, if we glance at your own modlog and pretend that’s infallible.
So your whole ‘we know you’ schtick is just one guy clutching pearls about me saying what an asshole he is, huh? That’s disappointing. When I argue with sugar_in_your_tea, there’s notes. In our previous interaction he kinda defended actual Nazi newspapers, and I’ll give the benefit of context and nuance, but that shit’s coming up again. You play a weak game if you wanna come out accusing someone of murder fantasies and gangstalking, and your whole basis is - ‘but a tankie said so!’
Meanwhile, you’ve done less than nothing to distnguish yourself from any other conservative. You want to label me, and pretend that’s a substitute for any form of counterargument. Like. The whole accusation was, y’all just sneer at outsiders based on this ideology-as-identity, and reach for excuses to justify that kneejerk conclusion.
And your rebuttal was to do that three times in a row.
I don’t know who the sugar tea monk guy is, but by the sound of your rant, you’re proving my point. I don’t even know where your nazi newspapers example is coming from, or what you’re talking about. I’m not even talking about newspaper?! What?!
We’re talking about you being a jerk and now you are talking about how you read nazi newspapers?! WTF?!
Is your reply meant for me or for someone else?! You sound like you are having an entirely different conversation than what we were talking about.
I knew you were a jerk, but I didn’t know you were a nazi. You read nazi newspapers and brag about it. Fits your presonality, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. Of course you are a nazi. Have you ever heard of the nazi bar? You’re who they talk about. I bet u worship Trump too. Eww, I don’t deal with fascists. Yuck, go away.
Your opinion isn’t fact. Bro, you are a well-known duopoly worship promoter. I don’t take anything you say seriously. Republicans suck. Democrats suck. That’s my opinion. You have yours. We’re never gonna agree.
Ooh, I’m well-known. Shame it’s for something made-up. I’ve long been an absolute crank about ranked voting and breaking the two-party system.
I have not seen any alleged third party fall so consistently to one side, as libertarians backing republicans. You can glibly denounce ‘both sides,’ but so does one side, and it’s the side y’all routinely vote for. Pretending the outright fascists are only as bad as the ineffectual liberals is standard rhetoric for those fascists. I have no love for the democratic party, but they’re a thousand times better than the bastards currently snatching people off the street. Your beef with people who want cheaper healthcare needs to be fundamentally distinct from your beef with people openly drooling about rounding up sixty million Americans.
Observable reality is not a matter of opinion. On some subjects, you can speak your mind, and be wrong. Claiming any great bulk of self-professed libertarians are-too distinct from and unaligned with generic conservatives is observably wrong. You know who else claims that? Conservatives. The ones who aren’t fully in the cult act like there’s some silent mass of real conservatives, like however we pretend they were thirty years ago, and they’re gonna ride over the hill and put all this extremism behind us. But no. It’s just the extremism, and a facade.
The facade for this group is a lot of high-minded academic language to say, let rich people wield unchecked power. Pleasant-sounding excuses to eliminate societal guardrails against discrimination, poverty, hunger, and child laborers who can’t count to ten.
Actual pragmatic property-fetishism would still acknowledge the diminishing marginal utility of money and tax the hell out of rich people. A handful of guys being able to shape an entire country is antithetical to any visions of decentralized order. Everyone does better when that excess is spent on infrastructure.
Actual economy-uber-alles thinking would demand a high minimum wage, so people can buy things. If a business can’t afford to pay a comfortable living wage, they fail, oh well.
Actual individualist fixation would expect amazing schools for everyone, so no brilliant budding minds are doomed to obscurity. Do you want meritocracy, or do you want to measure how rich some kid’s parents were? Some beat the odds, but most don’t, because that’s what odds are.
A society arranged on your stated ideals would look nothing like what you advocate. What you advocate looks an awful lot like what republicans advocated, before they went mask-off. A gun in every fridge and private school and deregulated everything and tax cuts tax cuts tax cuts. These are just demands from hierarchy, to increase hierarchy.
I’ll keep voting third party. Thanks! By the way, you aren’t just a “crank,” you’re an outright dick to people on Lemmy. I don’t know what your deal is, but you’re easily one of the biggest jerks I’ve ever witnessed on Lemmy. I’ve seen you advocate violence, stalking, troll accusations, etc. I don’t know what you got going on in your real life, but dude…
The problem with that, is on the few times you aren’t ranting or calling people names, I can’t take ya seriously. And I know you’re ok with that too. So all good.
There are fun chaos trolls, ragebaiters, etc. But you, oy. You are the unhappiest person I have ever come across on the internet. And I’m fucking old. So I think you are either fake and you are trying to confuse people because you work for foreign agents, or you have some condition that makes you chronically bitchy. Either way, nah, I don’t believe a word you are saying. And you worship the duopoly.
I invite you to bring receipts for any of those shrill claims, because it’s inevitably going to be a couple shrugs about Charlie Kirk, and then nothing. Glib frustration with infuriating nonsense, which you’ve somehow twisted up into lurid allegations about… stalking? I cannot even guess what the fuck inspired that fantasy. And you put ‘troll accusations’ in the same breath. Bit of a disconnect, yeah? Arson, murder, jaywalking? I gladly admit to calling people trolls, when they’re trolling.
Like when they just make shit up and don’t have an argument.
Like this directed abuse in the absence of fact.
At no point were you asked to believe me. That denial is a confession. It speaks to a worldview fixated on interpersonal loyalty, where things are true because a trusted person says them. You’ll never agree with me because claims from the outgroup are automatically wrong. That tribalism is the core of conservatism. You don’t have an answer, and that doesn’t bother you, because you’ve already drawn me as the soyjak, and apparently that’s all you think there is to reality. What a shame there’s no way for opposing claims to be settled by lookin’.
Anyone can look at your post history, you’re removed comments, and see how you are. Brah, you know it and you’re proud of it. I don’t even know why you are denying it, since you wear it as a badge of pride.
Also, I’m not conservative. thx
Ohhh, Universal Monk slandered me again. No, an obvious exaggeration about instance-owners escalating their discouragement against Lemmy’s most block-evading troll is not somehow an endorsement of crimes, you adorable little dingus. You adorable vote-manipulating sockpuppet, if we glance at your own modlog and pretend that’s infallible.
So your whole ‘we know you’ schtick is just one guy clutching pearls about me saying what an asshole he is, huh? That’s disappointing. When I argue with sugar_in_your_tea, there’s notes. In our previous interaction he kinda defended actual Nazi newspapers, and I’ll give the benefit of context and nuance, but that shit’s coming up again. You play a weak game if you wanna come out accusing someone of murder fantasies and gangstalking, and your whole basis is - ‘but a tankie said so!’
Meanwhile, you’ve done less than nothing to distnguish yourself from any other conservative. You want to label me, and pretend that’s a substitute for any form of counterargument. Like. The whole accusation was, y’all just sneer at outsiders based on this ideology-as-identity, and reach for excuses to justify that kneejerk conclusion.
And your rebuttal was to do that three times in a row.
I don’t know who the sugar tea monk guy is, but by the sound of your rant, you’re proving my point. I don’t even know where your nazi newspapers example is coming from, or what you’re talking about. I’m not even talking about newspaper?! What?!
We’re talking about you being a jerk and now you are talking about how you read nazi newspapers?! WTF?!
Is your reply meant for me or for someone else?! You sound like you are having an entirely different conversation than what we were talking about.
I knew you were a jerk, but I didn’t know you were a nazi. You read nazi newspapers and brag about it. Fits your presonality, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. Of course you are a nazi. Have you ever heard of the nazi bar? You’re who they talk about. I bet u worship Trump too. Eww, I don’t deal with fascists. Yuck, go away.
They’re an odd sort of troll.
Could you please cool it? We really don’t need these kinds of personal attacks.
I disagree with this person too, but that doesn’t make it okay to slander them. Attack arguments, not people.
Understood. But when he said that about your conversation with him, I got annoyed, because you’ve never defended any Nazi newspapers.
But you’re right, no need to stoop to their level.
Word salad.
Good day.
I’m not gonna take anything you say seriously. And you are against third parties. So nah, fam. We ain’t gonna be friends.