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      Okay. Then verbalize those disagreements in the context of my arguments so I don’t have to repeat myself.

      For example

      I don’t buy into argument that it’s “fascism now or later,” — for that remains entirely speculative.

      How? If they won’t compromise with leftists and progressives now they won’t compromise when leftists and progressives start dominating primaries. I said this in my original comment.

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        I’m pretty sure they are compromising? Are you saying Biden’s position is the same as it was the days after October 7th? Because it’s clearly not.

        I’m not really integrated in hypotheticals insomuch as the reality at hand: this is election year. The primaries are over. Biden had moved on the issue of Israel already. And we (as well as Ukraine and Palestine) cannot afford as a nation to go through another 4 years.

        So give me an argument that reflects polling that doesn’t shoot Democrats in the foot in November.

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          I’m pretty sure they are compromising? Are you saying Biden’s position is the same as it was the days after October 7th? Because it’s clearly not.

          This is your idea of compromise? Nothing has changed. Weapons are still being shipped.

          So give me an argument that reflects polling that doesn’t shoot Democrats in the foot in November.

          I can’t. If you’re right you’re right. But I’ll be voting 3rd party. I won’t be held to a double standard. If the pro-weapon shipments voter aren’t morally culpable for refusing to yield their position in order to guarantee Biden wins then I’m not either.

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            Nothing has changed. Weapons are still being shipped.

            It’s funny you reply to that but have still managed to dodge my question to you directly related to this… Twice. How convenient.

            I’m beginning to feel you’re not discussing in good faith.

            I can’t. If you’re right you’re right. But I’ll be voting 3rd party. I won’t be held to a double standard. If the pro-weapon shipments voter aren’t morally culpable for refusing to yield their position in order to guarantee Biden wins then I’m not either.

            Lmfao which 3rd party? 3rd party does nothing but give fascists more power. Literally Republicans bankroll your 3rd party candidates including the Green Party to attract folks like you and you fall for the bait. I legitimately have to wonder how old you are simply because these are eerily reminiscent to arguments made from someone sub-22-years-old and witnessing their first maybe second election cycle since turning voting age.

            Whatever. If you’re voting 3rd party, that’s too far gone for me to commit any further than I care to. I might as well talk to a Trump supporter.

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              Lmfao which 3rd party? 3rd party does nothing but give fascists more power.

              There’s that double standard.

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                Thank you for admitting one doesn’t understand the mathematical end-result of FPTP, or what spoiler vote is.

                I take it I wasn’t too far off the mark on the age, either.