Old textbook from the 50s.

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    As someone that has recently taken an infant and and family CPR class for my son who started solid foods a few months ago, this is pretty similar to how they teach it today and I’m pretty sure it would have the same effect. You can’t perform a heimlich on a baby or very small child for a variety of reasons. This method or something similar to it is both safer and more effective, since it lets gravity help dislodge the food.

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        Maybe, but if true it means that whether the child is choking on feathers or bowling balls, they are ejected at the same speed, which is a great advantage of this technique.

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      Way back when my oldest was little one, he was choking and I just grabbed him and flipped him upside down and kind of bounced him like you’re trying to get ketchup out of a bottle. It worked and I had no idea what to do, it was like an instinct kind of thing.

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    Paramedic here, this is still half of how it’s done for choking in small children and babies. Five back blows, flip, five chest thrusts.

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    I…don’t get it. This is an old way to help a child that has something stuck in their throat. I mean, the heimlich maneuver was first described in 1974, so I guess this WAS in fact the best technique at the time. Keeping someone from suffocating is kind of important, and this seems like something you can do fast and easy (at least with a relatively small person).

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    That method is still mostly recommended, though mostly for younger children/babies. The Heimlich maneuver is difficult to perform on a small body. You either over squeeze, and cause harm, or are too tentative, and so not helping.

    With babies, you hold them lying on your forearm, facing downwards, and slap (open handed) hard. I’ve only seen it used once, but it worked perfectly then.

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        Doing that is causing more harm than good. The logic that lead to recommending such action is derived from the institutionalized and abusive corporal discipline of the time. ‘I beat my kid all the time, this can’t possibly be bad for them. They can take it.’

        It’s like a cartoon where someone is being held upside-down by their ankles and shaken. Also, commentary of the time.

        If you honestly believe in 2024 what is pictured is helping, do not help.

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          Doing that is causing more harm than good.

          Letting kids choke to death is the lesser harm here? Aight.

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          This is the wildest take I’ve heard in a fuckin’ age. Dude, I never say this, but you in particular need to duck out quickly and touch grass.

          You don’t get to use the language of facts while just warbling your own uninformed opinions on a subject. It’s gross.

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          Have you considered googling your bullshit before leaving a comment? Though I’m inclined to think you’re just trolling since you’re comparing a life saving technique to beating your child. Either way, take a break.

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          I’ll believe medical professionals, you believe whatever you want to.

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          My homie, go take a first aid/cpr class. You are wrong for so many reasons, and taking the class would remedy this one tiny section of that.

          And, seriously, go take the damn class, everyone should know how to perform basic care like this, period. It should be taught in schools imo.

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      Generally yes, but what’s shown here isn’t, it only looks a bit like it if you ignore the clearly spelled out context.