• Bob@sh.itjust.works
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    Linux users and Wayland users

    Linux users with X11 users

    Linux users with GNOME users

    Linux users with KDE Plasma users

    Linux users with Systemd users

    Linux users with openrc users

    Linux users with snaps users

    Linux users with flatpak users

    Linux users with appimage users

    Linux users with native packages users

    Linux users and Ubuntu users

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    Technically nVidia chose that fight, not Linux users. nVidia is chocked full of proprietary implementations meant to bog down competition, for example all CUDA technology including translation layers are technically illegal to even look at without nVidia proprietary drivers. All alternatives are free open source, afaik.

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      Nobody cares whose fault it is. At the end of the day it’s a Linux issue to fix.

      Edit: And they hated him for speaking the unfortunate truth.

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    Hate the irrational hate for Nvidia, Wayland or some desktop . I’m just out here trying to help others figure out their problem and some asshole comments"Nvidia doesn’t work on wayland", “just get an amd card”, “Wayland will never work” or “gsync doesn’t work in Linux with multiple monitors”.

    All of them are equally absurd, the last one largely true on xorg for any GPU. Xorg doesn’t do mixed frame rates. Also it doesn’t help the person who is using an Nvidia card because there are solutions for most issues. Those issues are just not well understood because there was a time Nvidia drivers just didn’t work on wayland etc.

    I hate gatekeepers and purist that just make anyone who might be new to the platform feel attacked or alienated. No one cares about your ideologies if they’re not asking and the idiots that parot it doesn’t prove anything other than your part of the loud minority. Just being kind to one another and being understanding of other peoples decisions can go a long way to growing a healthy supportive community.

    I’m still a little frustrated about the behavior of people when I was trying to help someone setup hardware video acceleration in their browser. And another that wanted to use a different distro but found Nvidia worked best on arch for him.

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      I am going to continue to tell people “just get an AMD card”, but only if they have indicated to me that they are shopping for new parts and haven’t committed to any yet.

      Giving that advice to someone who already has an Nvidia card is just as useless as those StackOverflow answers that suggest you dump your whole project architecture and stuff some big dumb library into your build to solve a simple problem.

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        I am planning to shop for new parts (well, strictly speaking I continue to plan for more than a year already, but life gets in the way). I can’t decide between the better compatibility of AMD and (supposedly) more features of Nvidia

        I have just started trying to make sense of the situation searching the internet, but I would appreciate it if you can sum up what’s the pros and cons for my use case: I mostly use GPU for gaming, consider participation in ML crowd sourcing like AI horde, sometimes edit images or video. Plus, I mostly use Win now and want to use Linux in dual boot on the new machine

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          Nvidia and AMD broadly cover the same use cases. Nvidia cards are not intrinsically better to my knowledge, Nvidia simply offers ultra high-performance cards that AMD doesn’t.

          If you just need nonspecific games to run decently, a card from either brand will do it. If you need to run the most intensive games there are on unbelievable settings, that’s when Nvidia should be edging out.

          ML dabbling may complicate things. Many (most?) tools are written for CUDA, which is a proprietary Nvidia technology. I think AMD offers a counterpart but I do not have details. You will need to do more research on this.

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      Why we have to care much about software usage. This is the current issue of linux communities, which decrease user qualities.

      Our enemy Microsoft and other “big tech” laugh people like these. They are using linux just like they use windows, even bring the bad, flawed windows culture to linux.

      Don’t let the enemy to laugh at us.

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        even bring the bad, flawed windows culture to linux

        Infighting is on the Unix culture since it left the Bell Labs. Or maybe even sooner.

        But the only real enemy of that set is NVidia.

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          But the only real enemy of that set is NVidia.

          The only?

          (Windows user that switch to linux and then say: we only need partition for / and /home are also enemies. Windows user that have switch to linux and use root for every task are enemies.)

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            Are those ex-Windows users slowing you down in any way?

            And anyway, if you are talking about desktops, I’ve been using only / and /home for about 20 years since I noticed that /boot and /var didn’t bring me any value for a really long time. I’m currently wondering if I shouldn’t ditch /home.