Yet to see the “9000-year old demon/dragon presents as a scantily-clad 9 year old girl” trope appear in Hollywood. Japan has it’s own flavor of reaction
Pocahontas came out in 1995. Anime had already been doing it’s creepy pedophilic reactionary thing for decades at that point. I also already admitted that 50% of the origins of this shit comes from the American/capitalist imported culture. Japan certainly takes it to another level though and makes it much more overt. There are weird incel revenge fantasy animes where the entire plot revolves around SAing those who “wronged” the protagonist, I can’t recall anything that depraved being mainstream in the west outside of porn. These animes are available on things like Crunchyroll and Netflix, they are “mainstream” and put up side-by-side with shows like Frieren. (Shield Hero, Made in Abyss, Solo Leveling, Goblin Slayer, Attack on Titan, Death Note, the -monogatari series are all examples of these more overtly fascist/pedo shows that are tolerated and popular in the fandom).
Stuff like AoT and Goblin Slayer are obviously bad, but isn’t the fascistic guy obviously the villain? One who loses, at that? I don’t think telling the story from the villains point of view is an endorsement of the villain.
The villain (protagonist) who is shown to be extremely cool, get a hot goth girl, be worshipped as god, and then given a very bittersweet ending. If the intention was to make the teenage readers not like Light then they failed, as evidenced by every comment section ever on the subject being filled with Light defenders who believe his initial quest was righteous and he just got off track. That killing “criminals” en masse is justice.
Many saw the moral as “absolute power corrupts” and not “who gave this fascist little shit god powers”. Of course we can see that his “downfall” was inevitable since second 0 he was acting like an unhinged reactionary incel, but there are many who instead see it as a legitimate Icarus/Lucifer/downfall story where he was correct at the start - similar to how Lucifer had a point in the war in heaven (that god should save all souls instead of letting some fall into sin).
Lucifer’s original point at least had in its core a good intention, Light is like if Lucifer started out evil in Heaven already wanting to “punish” all the evil souls cause he was just inherently a bitter little shithead, but all the Light fanboys fail to make the distinction because they see being a bitter little shit as a positive thing.
A while ago, I was travelling by bus, and they played the iron man movie. I was so offended by it I stoped watching western movies. I don’t remember any anime that was as bad as that.
Like I said, bad in different ways. One is chauvinist, imperialist propaganda and billionaire ideology. The others have imperialist propaganda, chauvinism and capitalist ideology as well plus pedophilia, incel fantasies and tons of sexual assault downplayed as silly goofy stuff by the main character.
I’m not going to defend anime, I also can’t finish watching most series. I never saw the point of friendren for example ad dropped it after a few episodes.
Someone here recommended chainsaw man because it’s politics were “death to america” and I said, “death to america, of course”. it was ok, but there was a lot of lib shit, and I didn’t really feel the death to america vive.
I also hate western TV don’t get me wrong. I was just ranting on subject based on the OP and the comment I was replying to. The problems with the two are different though. Western TV is pro-cop, pro-war and extremely cruel and vindictive. Anime is better on those first two subjects usually, but is more overtly pedo-ey and fan service-y, as well as more overtly fulfills taboo power fantasies like harems, vindictive/punitive SA, having special powers that make you the most special boy, etc.
One is made for American boomer war pigs, the other is made for weird nihilist incel Japanese teenage boys. Of course they will be different
the people in game of thrones with harems are the villains, the people in anime with harems are the protagonists. If you haven’t seen anime a lot then it’s hard to explain how much more overt they are about fantasy fulfillment than in western TV. It’s shameless, anyone who watches them will admit to this “guilty pleasure” that is the libidinal release of fascism. This is the major appeal of fascism to Liberals, the ability to drop the mask and all of the feigned concern and just be overtly, shamelessly evil. They still get what they want, the treats, but they no longer have to pretend they are blood-free and carbon-neutral. They no longer have to assuage the leftists or their own conscious. They get off on it, it’s a guilty pleasure, and it’s one that anime simulates.
the more explicit anti america parts are in part 2 and are not animated yet (portrayed as the war devil’s relationship with america) but csm is more of a story about survivng abuse and grooming in general, as well as religious cult behavior.
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To be fair, half the influence that Anima has is from western movies and shows, geniunely 90% of all hollywood movies are pedo war racist slop.
Yet to see the “9000-year old demon/dragon presents as a scantily-clad 9 year old girl” trope appear in Hollywood. Japan has it’s own flavor of reaction
instead the west has Pocahontas, not 6000 year old dragon ,but still pedo stuff of a real human
Pocahontas came out in 1995. Anime had already been doing it’s creepy pedophilic reactionary thing for decades at that point. I also already admitted that 50% of the origins of this shit comes from the American/capitalist imported culture. Japan certainly takes it to another level though and makes it much more overt. There are weird incel revenge fantasy animes where the entire plot revolves around SAing those who “wronged” the protagonist, I can’t recall anything that depraved being mainstream in the west outside of porn. These animes are available on things like Crunchyroll and Netflix, they are “mainstream” and put up side-by-side with shows like Frieren. (Shield Hero, Made in Abyss, Solo Leveling, Goblin Slayer, Attack on Titan, Death Note, the -monogatari series are all examples of these more overtly fascist/pedo shows that are tolerated and popular in the fandom).
i remember when the nameless incel anime you are referring to was streaming and yeah, it was kinda popular. Glad I never looked into it.
Stuff like AoT and Goblin Slayer are obviously bad, but isn’t the fascistic guy obviously the villain? One who loses, at that? I don’t think telling the story from the villains point of view is an endorsement of the villain.
The villain (protagonist) who is shown to be extremely cool, get a hot goth girl, be worshipped as god, and then given a very bittersweet ending. If the intention was to make the teenage readers not like Light then they failed, as evidenced by every comment section ever on the subject being filled with Light defenders who believe his initial quest was righteous and he just got off track. That killing “criminals” en masse is justice.
Many saw the moral as “absolute power corrupts” and not “who gave this fascist little shit god powers”. Of course we can see that his “downfall” was inevitable since second 0 he was acting like an unhinged reactionary incel, but there are many who instead see it as a legitimate Icarus/Lucifer/downfall story where he was correct at the start - similar to how Lucifer had a point in the war in heaven (that god should save all souls instead of letting some fall into sin).
Lucifer’s original point at least had in its core a good intention, Light is like if Lucifer started out evil in Heaven already wanting to “punish” all the evil souls cause he was just inherently a bitter little shithead, but all the Light fanboys fail to make the distinction because they see being a bitter little shit as a positive thing.
I actually have a terrible hot take about goblin slayer being good axtually.
I would give a good answer if I was the kind of person to watch anime or western movies and shows (treatlerite)
Unfortunately, I didn’t just fall out of a coconut tree. I exist in the context of all in which I live and what came before me
I did
A while ago, I was travelling by bus, and they played the iron man movie. I was so offended by it I stoped watching western movies. I don’t remember any anime that was as bad as that.
Like I said, bad in different ways. One is chauvinist, imperialist propaganda and billionaire ideology. The others have imperialist propaganda, chauvinism and capitalist ideology as well plus pedophilia, incel fantasies and tons of sexual assault downplayed as silly goofy stuff by the main character.
I’m not going to defend anime, I also can’t finish watching most series. I never saw the point of friendren for example ad dropped it after a few episodes.
Someone here recommended chainsaw man because it’s politics were “death to america” and I said, “death to america, of course”. it was ok, but there was a lot of lib shit, and I didn’t really feel the death to america vive.
Any way. I find western tv more offensive.
I also hate western TV don’t get me wrong. I was just ranting on subject based on the OP and the comment I was replying to. The problems with the two are different though. Western TV is pro-cop, pro-war and extremely cruel and vindictive. Anime is better on those first two subjects usually, but is more overtly pedo-ey and fan service-y, as well as more overtly fulfills taboo power fantasies like harems, vindictive/punitive SA, having special powers that make you the most special boy, etc.
One is made for American boomer war pigs, the other is made for weird nihilist incel Japanese teenage boys. Of course they will be different
game of thrones
the people in game of thrones with harems are the villains, the people in anime with harems are the protagonists. If you haven’t seen anime a lot then it’s hard to explain how much more overt they are about fantasy fulfillment than in western TV. It’s shameless, anyone who watches them will admit to this “guilty pleasure” that is the libidinal release of fascism. This is the major appeal of fascism to Liberals, the ability to drop the mask and all of the feigned concern and just be overtly, shamelessly evil. They still get what they want, the treats, but they no longer have to pretend they are blood-free and carbon-neutral. They no longer have to assuage the leftists or their own conscious. They get off on it, it’s a guilty pleasure, and it’s one that anime simulates.
idk I watched neither, I just know game of thrones has stuff
the more explicit anti america parts are in part 2 and are not animated yet (portrayed as the war devil’s relationship with america) but csm is more of a story about survivng abuse and grooming in general, as well as religious cult behavior.
Then, I’m looking forward to part 2. Thanks comrade.
Chainsaw man is specifically pro union.