• xijinpingist [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    2 months ago

    It’s like those who treat dogs like people. People are all different, they have feelings, you have to think about them, sometimes they’re in a bad mood, the kid gets older and isn’t so cute any more. But a dog will always love you.

    • Krem [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Treating dogs like people makes more sense. A dog is already 98% like a human, and a dog that’s been raised in a human family has a lot of human behaviours and emotions. An algorithm is 0% like a human (or any other sentience) and has 0 behaviours and emotions.

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        Dogs are natural followers. They WANT you to lead, to be strict and even discipline them. Being kind-hearted to a dog is cruel. We started to live with dogs for solid reasons.They have senses we don’t and we are stronger together. Heck, we only got dogs in the first place by kidnapping wolf cubs out of their den. But try explaining this to one of these people and they lose it. The dog jumps up on visitors and tries to hump their legs because they aren’t trained and disciplined. We even use BDSM equipment like collars and leashes on them and nobody bats an eye.

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          uh sure, when i said “treating dogs like people” i meant stuff like having social interactions with them, playing with them, communicating, understanding that they’re intelligent, emotional social beings, treating them as part of a family (but different than humans). this is in contrast to an algorithm, with which actual communication or interaction is impossible (only a crude simulation of it), and which has no intelligence, emotion or agency.

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      They don’t treat dogs like people but they do the same thing where because they treat them with any degree of care they have to pretend they’re basically human minds trapped in animal bodies because they’re so ableist towards “low IQ” creatures that it wouldn’t make sense to themselves to be kind to something deemed stupid.

      There’s no inbetween for “disgusting stupid slave creature” and “the divine human spirit” for most people.