• Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    “Nu-uh! It’s only grooming when my kid realizes they’re gay, not when I trade her like a brood mare to an influential political old fart in exchange for financial favors and political sponsorship of my relatives!”

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    5 months ago

    I bet you this guy, without a shred of irony, screams “groomer” every time it’s brought to his attention that drag queens exist. Screams until he’s hyperventilating and blue in the face. And 100% believes he’s the good guy fighting the good fight.

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      Well, see–groomers are giving upstanding men with a penchant for girls less than half their age a bad name ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ He is fighting the good fight! Girls yet to be born and men in their early twenties deserve to have their romantic preferences served so that in another 20 years or so they too can find love in considerably older/younger generations… 🫠 Wtf is wrong with this country, i swear this is fallout from lead exposure but that’s too easy of an answer. There is some deliberate evil at work here, imo

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    That’s really unfair to paint all Republicans with that brush. Some of them are married to groomers.

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    5 months ago

    The body language in the photo makes me want to vomit. GIRL, GET OUT OF THERE.

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        Simply pointing out that this guy and his kid have been in the news lately. You may infer that this kid has a bright future ahead of him despite his idiot dad, but can we agree that you came to this conclusion on your own?

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          Okay I might have misunderstood your intentions, but you posting a picture of his son making faces while he’s giving some speech or whatever kinda felt like you’re on “haha look at this stupid kid”

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            Not at all, i felt solidarity with this kid. It was almost like he was performing an interpretive dance of whatever the old man was talking about. Or that this 6 year old grasped the absurdity of the old man’s political theater and seized his moment. The kid is a comrade.

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    5 months ago

    Her: if I marry this old fucker I’ll collect so much life insurance some day.

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          if you’ve been groomed from childhood it doesn’t really matter at what age you get married. you’ve still been manipulated and one can hardly assume real agency is involved. mind that people usually don’t say “let’s get married” and do it that year. the idea of marriage was likely discussed and decided on way earlier.

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            OK, but it’s a big IF, it’s as much as a conjecture as assuming she is in for the money. We don’t know when they actually started having a relationship, we don’t know if any “grooming” happened, nor to what extent, we don’t know when they decided to get married.

            Also, they seem to have met when she was 18. That’s already not a child (which means it can hardly be called grooming). Plus, grooming is not like a lifetime spell, it’s something that victims blames themselves for usually, but not something that they never realize.

            To me it seems they simply have a very big age difference.

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              this is like a notch above “it’s ephebophilia actually”

              they meet when she was 17, in highschool. he was not. a couple years later he gave her a scholarship for college and later they got married.

              no it’s not a big conjecture. considering he’s an anti LGBT republican makes it almost a guarantee actually.

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                To me it sounds like a conjecture based on prejudices. Also, I think that women are not necessarily dolls completely subjects to the will of men simply because they are older (and therefore capable of who knows what long-lasting convincing), but humans with autonomy, capable of taking their own decisions.

                I don’t see what his shitty political views have to do with the lack of information we have to judge the specific dynamics of their relationship.

                The only argument here really is a moralistic one (big age gap), which is something I would expect from conversatives, not from progressive people. Instead I see moralism and infantilization under the pretence of protecting “children”.

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                  it is a conjecture; i just said it’s not a big one. a safe bet, you could say.

                  if you don’t see what kind there is between right wing religious cunts opposing lgbt rights in the name of family and children and child predation then I can only wish you a quick recovery from your decades long coma.

                  also you’re going super hard on this not being about children (or “children” to use your scare quotes) is weird. giving big “but she looks mature” vibes. the only argument isn’t the age gap. it’s that one was middle aged and the other was a minor when they met, and they got married a few years later.

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              This is true, there is barely any info about this situation and people instantly accuse him of grooming. Age difference is probably why people are sour, it is easier to call it grooming and call him a pedophile.

              Also the point you made about grooming not being a lifetime spell is important, as the whole point of grooming is to normalise sexual abuse with a minor, now she wasn’t a minor and there isn’t any proof he sexually abused her so where are the assumptions coming from?

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    5 months ago

    That picture looks off. Like the heads don’t match the bodies or something.