It is hard to imagine that there was not someone inside of Nike that lost their faith in humanity when the pitch for these things was originally taking off.

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    I mean, there are some devices that fundamentally have to be online to be useful. You’re not losing anything there.

    A Roku stick requires the Roku streaming service to be functioning to be useful. If there wasn’t a service with streaming media, the stick would have nothing to stream.

    The problem is when you have a device that doesn’t have that fundamental requirement but is then unnecessarily tied to an online service. Home automation requiring Internet connectivity, for example, when virtually no home automation actually requires access to any online services, or converting non-live-service video games to live-service video games.

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      A Roku stick requires the Roku streaming service to be functioning to be useful. If there wasn’t a service with streaming media, the stick would have nothing to stream.

      In cases like this; it’s still only artificially dependant on Rokus services.

      The hardware is perfectly capable of streaming from any number of services, including entirely self-hosted solutions like Emby/Jellyfin/Plex; yet the device can be remotely bricked just by nolonger providing Rokus services to it.

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      A Roku stick requires the Roku streaming service to be functioning to be useful. If there wasn’t a service with streaming media, the stick would have nothing to stream.

      Still becomes e-waste if Roku drops support for it. Granted, that’s not the best example as I’ve got an old-ass Roku that still works, but the point stands. Same goes for Fire sticks and other devices like that.

      They really should be forced to, at minimum, release unlocking tools to allow 3rd party firmware. (Think flashing OpenWRT to a Roku and using it as a travel router or something). Ideally, they’d also release a development kit to foster “after-life” uses of such devices.

      Lots of companies will accept old devices back (supposedly to recycle), but there’s another “R”, re-use, that’s also an important part of the process.

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        Still becomes e-waste if Roku drops support for it. Granted, that’s not the best example as I’ve got an old-ass Roku that still works, but the point stands. Same goes for Fire sticks and other devices like that.

        Just look at Spotify’s Car Thing.

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        Are kids still even taught the three Rs (reduce, reuse, recycle)? I was always taught that they were listed in order of importance, but that seems to conflict with modern capitalism.

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          Honestly, no idea. But yeah, the latter two seem in direct opposition to the line always going up at all costs.

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          Apart from their use in the slogan, I don’t remember any importance being placed on reduce or reuse when I was at school. I guess “recycle” is the only one compatible with continually buying more shit we don’t need.

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      A Roku stick requires the Roku streaming service to be functioning to be useful.

      That’s not true at all. You could use a Roku with only Plex/Jellyfin and it would be immensely useful.