• Zebrafive@lemmy.myserv.one
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      4 days ago

      Ill give it a read.

      I just think that (1) its mentally easy to quickly assign blame on others, (2) it is not necessarily accurate when one does not specify whom (which person(s) (3) or aligned with the current international legal standards for crimes or violations. It might be unreasonable to expect ‘everyone’ to hold the same values as high level policy makers, but it is a point to be made.

      But the statement that all are complicit but not responsible is a modern accurate statement in my viewpoint.

      All Americans that pay taxes are complicit. Unless they have made every reasonable attempt to leave the country. (Myself included).

      There are varying levels of responsibility and accompanying guilt- but this is sort of a slippery slope to think like this but it is true.

      An international trial would not convict all Americans of a crime and then sentence them. The trial would convict ‘natural persons’ whom made the decisions, and also ‘natural persons’ whom performed aggression such as a drone operator, possibly aviators, (but only true in Nuremberg to a limited extent ) but there are thousands aboard the ship whom are indeed complicit but

      I would not sentence them to death, writ large, or else. At the most a fine or some injunctions regarding federal or military employment and or voting.

      The wars in Sudan— The war in Ukraine– I feel bad for all of them, I know many Russians are forced to die at the hands of the state. To much lesser degree some Americans are forced to facilitate war thru less bold or violent mechanisms.

      Undoubtedly the Iranians noninvolved are suffering orders of magnitude greater than the ‘boys’ ln ship. But comparing suffering is not helpful on the individual level. The system level, it is certainly.

      Even though some I feel bad for may be responsible or complicit in the violence.

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        4 days ago

        No man, your country voted for him and 30% didn’t give enough of a shit to vote either way, that’s complicity and frankly I don’t think om going to be going out of my way to associate with them over this.

        To the ineffective libs still in America, you wanna actually hurt Donald. Move to a dif country.