• deft@lemmy.wtf
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    Coke and Pepsi game. Everyone does this.

    China’s intelligence community is closer friends with America’s intelligence community than either of their own population.

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    If you have two potential opponents, a slightly crazy one and a really crazy one, and you think you’re more likely to be able to beat the really crazy one then it’s a calculated risk to try and help the really crazy one beat the slightly crazy one for you. Your gamble doesn’t pay off if suddenly the really crazy one beats you though.

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        First of all, define “conducting”, second of all, you cannot seriously tell me you believe that Trump, if elected, will stop funneling arms to Gaza

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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          Conducting as in actively engaged in supplying Israel with weapons used to commit the genocide, running political cover for Israel at the UN by doing vetoes of ceasefire resolutions, and attacking Yemen for interdicting shipping with Israel. I imagine that Trump will continue largely the same policies, but that just shows that both parties are genocidal fascists.

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            If it’s all the same to you, then, I’ll vote for the candidate that isn’t saying he wants to bring the fascism to our side of the pond. I’m not remotely condoning the genocide in Israel, dgmw, but given the choice between mass death over there, and mass death over there and mass deportations and anti-human rights laws back home, I’ll go with the first option.

            I hate Joe Biden as much as the next leftist, and I am sincerely begging everyone reading this to vote for someone else in the Democratic primary, but if it comes down to Biden or Trump, please, please tell me that you will vote for Biden instead of staying home

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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              Vote for whatever flavor of fascism that you feel fits you best. I’m not stopping you. Meanwhile, I’m not an American and I’m just watching your shithole country tear itself apart from the outside.

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                I’m not sure there’s anything I can do in this situation that would cause you not to call me a fascist. If that’s your position, find a different position.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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                  If you think that voting for one fascist over the other makes you a good person then maybe take a bit time to think about your morals. Unlike you, I don’t need to do mental gymnastics to justify supporting fascists.

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    This is how Trump won in the first place, wikileaks published emails of Hilary’s campaign doing this. Instead of critisizing her for being responsible for Trump, democrats blamed Russia and attecked Wikileaks as Russian spies, literally called for shooting the messenger.

    This is a prime example of why voting for lesser evil is not a tactic in politics and the whole liberal ideology as whole that we just need to vote for right people, instead of removing powerful positions in government in the first place.

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      The wikileaks thing is highly suspect, though. Like, wikileaks intentionally disclosed a lot of publicly damaging dirt on Clinton and the Dems at a very sensitive time in the election while not releasing ANYTHING on the GOP, even though they supposedly had that information.

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          Nothing suspect besides them turning into Putin’s laundromat. Oh, and then there was the not so subtle pushing of conspiracy theories exploiting Seth Rich’s death. Real class act there.

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            nah, the real class act is the shit that we now know about what US does around the world and domestically thanks to wikileaks

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              I used to love Wikileaks. They did genuine good throughout the years. That reputation was forever sullied in 2016 when Assange showed that he could be the puppet for one dictatorial regime (Putin) to promote a proto-fascist (Trump). Then the lies that he used as a coverup! Hardly befitting the head of a “radical transparency” organization. It was all so grotesque and petty. Trump might have just disappeared after 2016 if he hadn’t been elected, but instead the world has to deal with the consequences of the MAGAts for the foreseeable future. It felt like Assange betrayed the underlying cause of Wikileaks in favor of petty revenge on Democrats.

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    This is some next-level fucked up man-behind-the-man-behind-the-curtain conspiracy bullshit.

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        Has anyone reported on it aside from a self-proclaimed conservative news outlet?

        Edit: Just found NPR reporting on it

        That doesn’t change that this planet can’t burn up soon enough.

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          Yay context!

          a number of Democrats tried to boost far-right Republican candidates whom they deemed easier to beat in November.

          The strategy seems to have paid off: In high-profile races where Democratic candidates or groups successfully used the strategy during the primaries, all of the Republicans they helped have either lost or are trailing, two days after Election Day.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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            A perfect example of short term thinking that plagues US politics. Democrats boosted popularity of the far right to win a primary. This directly contributed to the republicans party sliding further into MAGA territory. Now, dems are looking at a wipe out by Trump in the coming election. This continues the great tradition of liberals ushering in fascism.