It’s funny, I tend to fixate on shooting events when they happen and follow the news and dig into it. But I didn’t even hear about this till days later.
My conspiracy is that this kid got groomed or extorted by stronger sovereign types to do this. Basically all politics use youth. Youth are the ones fucked over because adults want to get something. Business marketing to youth to make money etc… America’s youth are puppets. Shit, it’s the same reason why conservatives say colleges are indoctrinating people. It’s the same dumb bullshit on all sides of pop politics… Market to and use the youth to advance your ideology while killing innocence of just “existing” and “being” so that one can feel some fake security and solidify their perception of reality.
If by using the youth you mean discussing very prevalent political items that they will absolutely need to deal with in a time where they are forming their perception of what reality is actually like… then yeah…
When else would be an appropriate time to discuss current standings, issues, and opinions than during the dawn of adulthood? We vote at 18 in the US… it’s absolutely acceptable to be talking about this stuff when teens are starting highschool. And of all the political sides, try as the republicans may, democratic/liberal policies are generally based on how things are affecting everyone from the richest of rich down to the smallest minority demographic.
Sure there’s crazies on both sides, but trying to find a Republican who’s open to different ideas and concerns is a lot harder than finding a dem. One is based on modernization and societal progress while the other just points to any problem and suggests regression and suppression. Pretty simple imo
One is based on modernization and societal progress while the other just points to any problem and suggests regression and suppression.
This is what they’ve indoctrinated you as a teenager to think, doesn’t make it true though. The truth is both exist primarily, if not solely to maintain capitalism and the status quo.
Indoctrination and having inherent bias are two completely different things.
Believe it or not, I’m capable of critical thinking and questioning of the status quo. Just because I’m arguing about two sides doesn’t mean I subscribe to any of them. Apples, oranges, doesn’t matter when the whole orchard is rotting and has been doing so for a long time.
How were we ever supposed to use a system designed to rely on popular opinion to support everyone, including minority topics. Doesn’t make sense.
Don’t confuse my comparisons and subjective descriptions with actual subscription.
My conspiracy is that this kid got groomed or extorted by stronger sovereign types to do this.
I’ve been having similar thoughts. It seems much more likely to me that a trump fanboy could be convinced to take part in a convoluted plan to stage an assassination to create the hero/survivor/martyr/victim narrative for not much at all (but including the false promise that he would make it out alive, and maybe a free shot in to the crowd, as a treat), and that the christofascist police would look the other way (or just be their usual incompetent selves), than that one would not only get disillusioned to the point of wanting to kill him, but also being able to pull off something like this unnoticed (and we already know he was noticed).
Though the truth is that whatever really happened, if we ever find out, one thing’s for sure - being a trump supporter he definitely was, to one degree or another, groomed by stronger sovereign types, there’s a whole pipeline dedicated to it…
People underestimate the underground in terms of their play in politics. It’s gotten to the point that our system is fully intertwined with illegal and corrupt lifestyles.
Pop politics is just giving false hope to a class of people that don’t understand war and crime. The civil war has been here for awhile but people are too naive, even the cops and politicians, to understand. The deaths get passed off as accidents and suicides or blamed on mentally ill. It’s part of the game to make someone go crazy and do shit like this. It’s a common play. It’s to the point I question mass shootings. Are these kids getting used by stronger people? I see a lot of “regular” people played out doing work for stronger people. They are to naive to know what’s happening and how strong people around them can be. There’s players in the game everywhere. From the low streets to the big business and people get so blinded by the false market virtuosity of politics. It’s finished already. Shit our country would collapse if we took out the black market and dark money.
It’s gotten to the point that our system is fully intertwined with illegal and corrupt lifestyles.
I’d say it was designed that way.
Capitalism is immoral. It encourages greed and corruption, and requires exploitation and oppression to survive, as do those who benefit from it most and make sure it is maintained, which is why it will alwaysdecay in to fascism, and all of the violence and manipulation that come with it, including what we’re seeing unfold in front of our eyes…
I wonder if he was involved in those pedo hunting groups, and the realization that Trump is a rapist pedo with that 13 year old girl caused his GOP brain to malfunction.
Gtfoh with your “normal people” ableist nonsense. Never mind that the guy was as average white American man as you can fucking get…
White supremacist christofascist patriarchal ableist capitalism did this, not mental illness. Privilege and entitlement, and the ability of those in power who manufactured them to use them to control and manipulate certain groups under threat of losing their superiority over others, did this.
I’m so sick and tired of this fucking “mental illness did it” obtuse bullshit.
I’ll just leave this here, and I’m out I’m not “debating” this:
“Are you saying that murderers are right in the head??”
No there’s definitely something wrong with someone’s way of thinking if they can justify killing innocent people, but this doesn’t necessarily mean that they have a mental illness.
Extremist beliefs isn’t a mental illness.
Bigotry isn’t a mental illness.
Entitlement isn’t a mental illness.
Hate isn’t a mental illness.
Having a dysfunctional moral compass isn’t a mental illness.
We need to stop categorizing all these things as some undefinable “mental illness” and start looking at what we do as a society to develop and justify these things to a degree where people use them to justify killing.
Yes!
Dehumanization is something you Have to look for. If the murderer doesn’t see the person they killed as a person, then mental illness is probably not the main factor there.
Plenty of people murder women, poc, lgbt people, people of other religions etc. because they don’t see them as people.
Think about genocides - they aren’t perpetrated by big group of people/a government who all got mentally ill together the same way at the same time somehow, they just didn’t consider what they did murder because they didn’t see the victims as people.
Yeah, your source is bullshit and you have no experience with this stuff. This is some hardcore quit your bullshit stuff. This entire post of your is nothing but luxury beliefs. Nothing you say is grounded in actual psychology, it’s all a bunch of privileged trash. I can’t believe someone would cite that drivel and act like it’s fact, you are right up there with the MAGA flat earth people.
Have you see someone descend into the madness of schizophrenia? Nope, you sure have not. How about real depression, not your first world “I am so sad” type that people like you languish in and spout crap of just-feel-better.
It’s funny, I tend to fixate on shooting events when they happen and follow the news and dig into it. But I didn’t even hear about this till days later.
My conspiracy is that this kid got groomed or extorted by stronger sovereign types to do this. Basically all politics use youth. Youth are the ones fucked over because adults want to get something. Business marketing to youth to make money etc… America’s youth are puppets. Shit, it’s the same reason why conservatives say colleges are indoctrinating people. It’s the same dumb bullshit on all sides of pop politics… Market to and use the youth to advance your ideology while killing innocence of just “existing” and “being” so that one can feel some fake security and solidify their perception of reality.
If by using the youth you mean discussing very prevalent political items that they will absolutely need to deal with in a time where they are forming their perception of what reality is actually like… then yeah…
When else would be an appropriate time to discuss current standings, issues, and opinions than during the dawn of adulthood? We vote at 18 in the US… it’s absolutely acceptable to be talking about this stuff when teens are starting highschool. And of all the political sides, try as the republicans may, democratic/liberal policies are generally based on how things are affecting everyone from the richest of rich down to the smallest minority demographic.
Sure there’s crazies on both sides, but trying to find a Republican who’s open to different ideas and concerns is a lot harder than finding a dem. One is based on modernization and societal progress while the other just points to any problem and suggests regression and suppression. Pretty simple imo
This is what they’ve indoctrinated you as a teenager to think, doesn’t make it true though. The truth is both exist primarily, if not solely to maintain capitalism and the status quo.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/22/american-democracy-was-never-designed-to-be-democratic
https://tribunemag.co.uk/2023/06/no-capitalism-isnt-democratic
https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-democracy-illusion-choice
https://truthout.org/articles/fascism-is-possible-not-in-spite-of-liberal-capitalism-but-because-of-it/
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/
Indoctrination and having inherent bias are two completely different things.
Believe it or not, I’m capable of critical thinking and questioning of the status quo. Just because I’m arguing about two sides doesn’t mean I subscribe to any of them. Apples, oranges, doesn’t matter when the whole orchard is rotting and has been doing so for a long time.
How were we ever supposed to use a system designed to rely on popular opinion to support everyone, including minority topics. Doesn’t make sense.
Don’t confuse my comparisons and subjective descriptions with actual subscription.
I’ve been having similar thoughts. It seems much more likely to me that a trump fanboy could be convinced to take part in a convoluted plan to stage an assassination to create the hero/survivor/martyr/victim narrative for not much at all (but including the false promise that he would make it out alive, and maybe a free shot in to the crowd, as a treat), and that the christofascist police would look the other way (or just be their usual incompetent selves), than that one would not only get disillusioned to the point of wanting to kill him, but also being able to pull off something like this unnoticed (and we already know he was noticed).
Though the truth is that whatever really happened, if we ever find out, one thing’s for sure - being a trump supporter he definitely was, to one degree or another, groomed by stronger sovereign types, there’s a whole pipeline dedicated to it…
People underestimate the underground in terms of their play in politics. It’s gotten to the point that our system is fully intertwined with illegal and corrupt lifestyles.
Pop politics is just giving false hope to a class of people that don’t understand war and crime. The civil war has been here for awhile but people are too naive, even the cops and politicians, to understand. The deaths get passed off as accidents and suicides or blamed on mentally ill. It’s part of the game to make someone go crazy and do shit like this. It’s a common play. It’s to the point I question mass shootings. Are these kids getting used by stronger people? I see a lot of “regular” people played out doing work for stronger people. They are to naive to know what’s happening and how strong people around them can be. There’s players in the game everywhere. From the low streets to the big business and people get so blinded by the false market virtuosity of politics. It’s finished already. Shit our country would collapse if we took out the black market and dark money.
Oh, absolutely, take it even further
I’d say it was designed that way.
Capitalism is immoral. It encourages greed and corruption, and requires exploitation and oppression to survive, as do those who benefit from it most and make sure it is maintained, which is why it will always decay in to fascism, and all of the violence and manipulation that come with it, including what we’re seeing unfold in front of our eyes…
I wonder if he was involved in those pedo hunting groups, and the realization that Trump is a rapist pedo with that 13 year old girl caused his GOP brain to malfunction.
I doubt the cognitive dissonance would allow it, if it were that easy, they’d all be getting disillusioned pretty quick…
Possibly, but you take someone who is already pretty mentally imbalanced and this is the kind of thing that happens.
Normal people, even when enraged, don’t take to shooting other humans. It takes someone who is in a bad place to try and pull this off.
Gtfoh with your “normal people” ableist nonsense. Never mind that the guy was as average white American man as you can fucking get…
White supremacist christofascist patriarchal ableist capitalism did this, not mental illness. Privilege and entitlement, and the ability of those in power who manufactured them to use them to control and manipulate certain groups under threat of losing their superiority over others, did this.
I’m so sick and tired of this fucking “mental illness did it” obtuse bullshit.
I’ll just leave this here, and I’m out I’m not “debating” this:
source
Yeah, your source is bullshit and you have no experience with this stuff. This is some hardcore quit your bullshit stuff. This entire post of your is nothing but luxury beliefs. Nothing you say is grounded in actual psychology, it’s all a bunch of privileged trash. I can’t believe someone would cite that drivel and act like it’s fact, you are right up there with the MAGA flat earth people.
Have you see someone descend into the madness of schizophrenia? Nope, you sure have not. How about real depression, not your first world “I am so sad” type that people like you languish in and spout crap of just-feel-better.