I am forced to drive a car by the enviromental factors and also me voting the “force me to drive a car” party at every election

don’t @ me about vooooooooooooating

  • Sabbo [it/its]@hexbear.net
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    Where exactly do you live to have:

    a) Multiple candidates in a rural election

    b) Candidate running on expanding public transportation

    c) Rural people who wouldn’t sell their firstborn to get public transportation

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      governor vote matters there. wisconsin turned down some federal grant to build passenger rail because a republican was in office and a bunch of rural chuds could’ve voted for the democrat instead.

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        Have democrats meaningfully attempted to expand public transportation in Wisconsin into rural areas when they are in office?

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          I have family there who I asked.

          “Yes, like, repeatedly prior to that point. There haven’t been any real attempts since Walker blew up the Madison-Milwaukee HSR, but that was a 20 or 30 year old legal project that was literally at the point of having shovels in hands when he did.”

          My thoughts: what the fuck. A Republican governor, Tommy Thompson, initiated the project in the 90s, and Scott Walker blew up the last step (accepting the money) to deny Obama a win. It would have put a 125 mph Acela train between the two biggest cities.

          Looks like Thompson backtracked on establishing a light rail network in Milwaukee which would have built 10 miles of rails downtown, and instead they have built 2.5 miles of streetcar service.

          internet-delenda-est

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          idk i don’t live there. public transit needs a certain population density to operate so it doesn’t make sense to have it in farm country where it’s miles between neighbors and your biggest towns are like four blocks.

          dems probably better fund rural school busses, and rail from chicago to green bay to minneapolis or whatever it was would’ve benefitted some of them.

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            Intercity rail starts making sense at shockingly small populations.

            As far as I can tell Amtrak currently has 528 stations in the US and Canada. The UK’S National Rail currently has 2589. That might be a bit ambitious to match, but 1000 stations could cover every municipality with over 50,000 people in the US and Canada. I wish we lived in this world.

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              yeah for sure. there’s a lot of 1-horse towns that are less than 5% of that size tho, especially in the rural midwest. i think where my grandparents live is barely over 2k. when i was little it was under 1k and the town only had two cops and they had to share an old crown vic.

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                Yeah, it would be hard to cover every population center, but I feel like many of those places have a nearby town that’s accessible and quite a bit bigger. The next town over where people go if they need to do something their town doesn’t have. There are only about 5000 municipalities total with 10,000 or more people, but I feel like almost the entire population lives less than an hour from one of those.

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            See, that would make sense from a leftist perspective, but remember that Democrats are not leftists. In my experience, the way you get positive change is by rallying your community and doing it yourself, and when you’re done someone will come take credit for your work.

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        Oh, Europe! Ok, yeah we don’t have things like that over here. In North America “boonies” means places like Modena. Or places that don’t really get a name.