You cannot cure loneliness by simply obtaining “friendship” or “community” because they aren’t goals. At the end of the day all the questions begin with: Who are you and what are you going to use your one life for? I don’t need to repeat what Marx said and that’s been parroted a thousand times already.

People are completely alienated from themselves. We’re completely alienated from one another, who I am doesn’t matter, everyone who reads this text conjures up their own zombie writer to represent who they’re interpreting it to be written as.

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    For me the ultimate goal is ending suffering for all life. I may be terrible at practicing Buddhism but it gave me that purpose, that clarity of what do to with myself, to liberate me and everyone I can from pain. I know religions get a bad wrap in Marxist circles but, yeah, I’m grateful I got into the Buddha’s teachings.

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          The way I see it, the world is filled with sex trafficking, factory farming, war, starvation, torture, wage slavery, homelessness, etc. So either all of those things continue to happen to millions/billions, so that those who are enjoying their lives can continue, or those things stop. Which means no-one gets to enjoy their lives any more but they won’t exist to know they’re missing anything anyway. So IMO the world ending is the more moral choice.

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            When you’re actually opposed to people suffering, then it means you care about the people, so you wouldn’t want them to die. This is just projected suicidality masquerading as care for others.

            Ask the people who suffer through trafficking, war, starvation, torture–the majority of them are fighting to live, to have a better life. They do not want to die, and it is not a kindness for you to imagine their death as an “end to their suffering.” You’re actually siding more with the ones doing the torturing, trafficking, warmongering–you are devaluing the lives of others because you don’t see their lives as worthwhile.

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              That’s your personal viewpoint. But this viewpoint reminds me of the short story Those Who Walk Away From Omelas by Ursula Le Guin. It’s about people superficially feeling bad for those who suffer horribly, but being willing to let it continue indefinitely so that everyone else can continue to enjoy themselves.

              https://files.libcom.org/files/ursula-k-le-guin-the-ones-who-walk-away-from-omelas.pdf

              Also it’s not accurate that the people suffering through these things mostly want to live. For instance, statistically over two thirds of trafficking victims have suicidal ideation and nearly half have attempted suicide one or more times. It’s just virtue signalling to claim everyone wants to live without finding out whether that’s actually true or not. It’s easy for one of us, sitting somewhere at least relatively safe and mostly unharmed, to philosophise about this like it’s just a topic of debate but there are millions of people and billions of animals right now suffering the most unbearable torture with no way out and desperate for it to end, but the majority of people will gladly see it continue while imagining they re virtuous for it. It’s just like the people who campaign against assisted suicide, imagining they are so righteous and trying to protect the disabled, when actually they are just taking away the free will of those who would choose that option.

              This is also a daft thing to argue about since I am extremely unlikely to be called upon to single-handedly save the world, so whether or not I would choose to save the world in that scenario is meaningless. You have your opinion, I have mine, I don’t come to hexbear to argue so I won’t comment on this any more.

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            I have been through some dark and deprived places in life. Still, for over ten thousand days, I have chosen to reach out for what life has to offer, out of the prevailing desire for what’s out there and what I can make of myself.