So a new guy shows up to one of our public meetings yesterday, after maybe 20 minutes calls someone who he disagrees with a “zog bot”

I tell him not to call people that, bc “zog” originates in neo-nazism and anti-jewish conspiracy theories, say we can talk more after the meeting if need be

He slams his fists on the table and yells “ok zog bot” throws papers on the ground and storms out yelling “no god damn free speech! Zogs got em, zogs got em!”

freeze-peach

Thanks for leaving loser bye

  • homhom9000 [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    17 days ago

    Actual Nazi behavior to the point of genocide is happening right now at the hands of Zionist. Anything taking us further from that point is a waste of time.

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      Goes for everyone arguing over the specifics of demographic support (e.g. percentage of Jews worldwide supporting Zionism) when the reality is that it is a white euro settler colonial project and focusing on the demographics of its support serves to absolve non-Jewish white euros of complicity. That is why I get very suspicious of people focusing on the Judaism aspect and not the fact it’s just another colonial apartheid state this time using historic persecution as cover. Take away that aspect and it loses a lot of its sway. It’s white europeans doing white european things.

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        Yes and no. It’s useless to argue over the demographics of the genocide but Israel has a role in this too especially making the focus of the genocide Judaism and right to exist over Arabs. That cannot be ignored but as long as isrealis are also included in the white Europen colonizers then yes.

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              Not all white European Jews are Ashkenazi. But the Jewish population of occupied Palestine is about 80-93% European descent. Almost every split between Ashkenazi and Sephardic

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                Sephardic Jews as Europeans is bit of a stretch: the vast majority came from the MENA region where their families had lived for centuries and in Israel, secular leadership historically viewed them as arabised and too religioug; they have typically lived in worse conditions than Ashkenazi Jews. It’s like the “are Slavs white” question, the answer depends on the context.

                But personally I think asking how many Israelis are European is a red herring, Ben-Gvir is a Mizrahi for example and non-Ashkenazi Jews have often been the base for extreme Zionist movements like Kach and Likud. Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews are like gusanos in a way: their “whiteness” comes from their loyalty to Western hegemony.