Klein looks calm and curious as she delivers this message. She has a ready laugh. But then, she had the same unruffled, buoyant delivery when I interviewed her on stage in Manchester for Doppelgänger, her 2023 book in which she described how the digital world is destroying our connection to reality, and one another. In 1999, when her breakthrough work No Logo was published, she seemed exhilaratingly certain, at 29, that neoliberalism was bringing harm that we couldn’t yet even see the extent of, and nonetheless appeared centred and happy in the world. Somehow she manages to maintain this attitude, even though the news she delivers is always so convincingly, unbelievably bad.
End Times Fascism describes the world we’re in, where the components of authoritarianism are modelled everywhere you look: anarcho-libertarian economics in Argentina, the destruction of a free press in Russia, the erosion of democratic institutions in Hungary (until Viktor Orbán was deposed), “anti-immigrant neofascism” in Italy, the weaponisation of trans identity by Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil, Islamophobia in Modi’s India. But this is fascism with a difference. Its proponents are actively willing an apocalypse, or a wave of interconnected apocalypses brought forth by climate change and financial chaos, to hasten us towards a post-democratic world in which only a rich few survive to prosper.
This book started as an article in the Guardian, “which went totally viral,” Klein says. “Astra and I knew there was a lot more reporting to do, but on a personal level, did we want to spend the next year in the minds of these people, in these cultures? Then Astra said, ‘I’m down the rabbit hole, I’m gonna be listening to these guys anyway. So I may as well feel like I’m doing something about it.’ This is the reason it’s the first book I’ve co-written. When you go to dark, scary places, it’s nice to bring a friend.” Astra Taylor is also a writer, activist and documentary maker, and founded the Debt Collective, a fascinating experiment in building structured, quasi-unionised solidarity around personal debt, with the long term goals of abolishing student tuition fees, nationalising healthcare and building tenant power.
Naomi Klein is a badass
I live in Pennsylvania. I know it’s convenient for scratched liberals to believe everyone that criticizes your fucked-up worldview is some Russian Ork Bot, but what you’re actually doing is signaling your bigotry to the world and admitting you can’t handle ideas without resorting to fantasy.
It’s not bigotry, it’s pattern recognition. Should we review your 20 most recent comments so everyone can see what a shitgibbon you are?
We don’t even disagree ideologically, I think you just have a purity fetish and hateful affect.
The idea that you think our ideologies are similar is hilarious and telling. I am a Marxist-Leninist. You are a shitlib who calls everyone a Ruzzian who doesn’t agree with US imperialist bullshit. It is embarrassing for you to even consider us remotely similar in ideology, but I suppose based on the other comments here that you don’t have much in the way of shame.
Also, yes it is bigotry. You’re openly and proudly xenophobic against Russians as evidenced by you painting me as some paid troll working out of St. Petersburg. I even dispelled it by telling you no, I am American, and crickets.
The reality is you can’t handle serious ideas without resorting to twisted idealism. You know, the liberal way. Read some Marxist books and you may yet form some coherent political criticisms and you won’t end up tangling with leftists over basic issues.
I didn’t call you Russian because I disagree with you, I called you Russian because you are acting like a troll, and those particular trolls are pretty notable and fairly well documented.
Another clue about being a troll is how immediately you jump to xenophobia. I guess you possibly don’t realize that you haven’t presented any ideas here, just statements and insults. Sad, if true, because you are sabotaging real dialogue and just deterring potential allies.
Please don’t consider yourself representative of leftists. It’s a wide spectrum, and Marxist-Leninists come in all flavours, but do not represent the entirety of the critique of capital or power.
You called me a Russian troll because you’re a bigoted liberal. Xenophobia is still on the menu for you and you see no issue with it. Leftists do not employ Xenophobia because they’re not bigoted. It is very simple.
Also the idea that you of all people, an outgunned liberal clinging to a shitty author, are going to tell me that my voice is not representative of leftists is hysterical.
Are you more qualified to speak on criticisms of capitalism than a Marxist-Leninist? Than an Anarchist? The answer is no. You’re a proponent, not a critic, if authors like this are your heroes.
Go read the hexbear thread and read it carefully. There are all types of leftists over there. Another incredibly pitiful argument.
You’re just making shit up
And there it is, the capitulation.
What am I making up? That youre a bigot? It’s apparent. That socialists hate this author? It’s evident. That you’re a liberal? You’ve made that crystal clear. That you have no business having this argument? It’s obvious.
Thanks for trying.
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Yep:
Yeah it’s like trying to have a conversation with MAGA. It’s a pigeon strutting all over the board knocking over pieces and declaring victory.
When the revolutions come, guess who is eager to put dissenters against the wall? Even those who helped. History knows.
My movement? You mean… Marxist-Leninism? The thing that billions of people are right now? So niche.
Socialist ideology is only unapproachable from fascists who have everything to lose. Working class people, when educated on historical materialism, have everything to gain.
Edit: https://lemmy.today/comment/26557727
Lmao, okay, got it. Hilarious.
And to think… if you hadn’t had wrote this innocent little comment, you’d still have your Lemmy account.
Thanks for playing. You lose.
'kay.