• Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    17 days ago

    It’s funny, I was raised the exact opposite, In a house with men who hated women(and shoved thier truama at me, ehem)… and I dont hate men, never did, just a few specific people.

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      17 days ago

      I commend you for that. I know people who were raised in similar circumstances and didn’t take the red pill.

      My point is that a lot of people in that situation end up going the complete opposite direction due to internalized anger because of it.

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        17 days ago

        It’s not women’s fault when men become rapists.

        don’t constantly shove your trauma down their throats or they’re gonna end up becoming the very men you despise.

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          17 days ago

          Hey now one comment thread at a time lol

          I’m not saying that, though I can see why you’d think so. I’m saying that pushing all of your trauma onto your kids normally backfires and causes them to be the very thing you hate.

          Don’t call your son a rapist just because they’re a man. Just like don’t call your daughter a whore just because she’s a woman. More often than not it causes them to end up with the very mindset you’re trying to avoid.

          Just teach them to be good people. No sexism involved.

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            17 days ago

            Hey now one comment thread at a time lol

            I’m not motivated by men telling me what to do. I’ll reply when I see fit.

            Just teach them to be good people. No sexism involved.

            Yes and part of that is teaching boys that they have a responsibility to use their strength and power and privilege to not subjugate others for their own selfish wants. Teaching them this does not mean they are being called rapists.

            You don’t need to give women warnings that if we don’t raise our sons right, if we don’t treat men right, if we don’t act right, that we are responsible for being raped.

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              17 days ago

              I’m not motivated by men telling me what to do. I’ll reply when I see fit

              That was meant to be a joke to lighten the tone considering the subject here. Apologies.

              I’m not trying to say women are completely responsible. Father’s have just as much, if not more, sway in their sons. My point is don’t add fuel to the fire.

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                16 days ago

                I’m not trying to say women are completely responsible. Father’s have just as much, if not more, sway in their sons. My point is don’t add fuel to the fire.

                You have only commented about women and mothers here. If you don’t want people to take your comments at face value about that, then you should be sure to include what fathers and men can do to help prevent rape as well.

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                  16 days ago

                  That’s completely fair and I noticed it myself which is why I brought up fathers. It’s not just mothers it’s fathers, brothers, cousins, friends. But when all the men in your life say “women ain’t shit” and then all the women in your life say “men ain’t shit” more than likely they’re gonna end up siding with they’re gender.

                  I hope you understand I’m not trying to argue in bad faith. I’m just trying to let my personal experience be shown and trying to explain that going too far in one direction causes the opposite intended effect

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                    16 days ago

                    But when all the men in your life say “women ain’t shit” and then all the women in your life say “men ain’t shit” more than likely they’re gonna end up siding with they’re gender.

                    Who is predated upon the most by the other group?