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Man fuck Nintendo at this point. WE ARE ALLOWED TO EMULATE, GET FUCKED
Discord is the antithesis to free web. Stop using it. I won’t join any community using discord.
Oh yeah, and fuck Nintendo
I started using Discord because Skype was pissing me off. Now, Discord starts to piss me off with their bullshit. I’m just too tired to move to yet another platform that will start sucking once it’s grown bigger. I hate this “social media” focus on every little fucking thing. This stupid “we are building a community” garbage should die.
Maybe it’s time for me to burn everything down and go live in the woods. I don’t particularly resonate with people anyway.
Could you (or someone) elaborate on that first point there?
It’s a closed system owned by a single company. If you provide data or information there, the company owns the data, other people can’t find the data using search engines and they would need an account to access the data. Imagine the internet is owned by a single company and they could sell, change, censor, delete restrict access to or use the information in means you cannot predict.
It’s a closed ecosystem. What else is there to say?
CompareContrast with IRC, Matrix or XMPP.So, it’s the lack of admin rights? Inability to decide your own sitewide TOS, lack of privacy from Discord admins, possibility of getting shut down, that’s what they meant?
(I’m not familiar with those other platforms)
None of those details really matter.
What matters for the point of this argument is the simple fact that Discord is owned by the company Discord Inc.
That includes all of the servers and everything on them.
Imagine if ALL OF THE INTERNET was owned by Google …
So the worry is of a surveillance state?
More than that. They own the content and relationships and can use them in ways you cannot predict. LLMs gobble up human produced content because we entrusted it to corporations. What hit hardest for me was when Facebook published a study where they found they could influence users attitude by prioritizing certain posts in their feeds.
Imagine it. Corporations owning your relationships and using them to get a profit out of you
I often revere the people who can do smart shit.
I really shouldn’t. Using discord is dumb. Using discord for a switch emulator, while Nintendos lawyers are waking around with their cocks out is stupid.
I’ve said this recently, but intelligence is domain specific. People just being generally “smart” is not a thing people should really care about.
Have you considered that the person you consider smart is focusing all their brain power on their projects and they don’t have time to set up and maintain a website? That’s what discord is for, an easy, quick and dirty community aggregate
Creating a channel on freenode takes seconds
I will say this, if you are a Lemmy user, sure probably.
But I did a simple websearch for “how to set up a freenode server.” The very first 3 things I saw (what fits on the screen) were a page full of syntax, a 13 minute YouTube video, and a page where the first thing that’s written is literally “Internet Relay Chat is a difficult thing to get used to, especially for people who were born into this world of full graphical interfaces and messaging web apps that handle user interaction seamlessly.”
For the average user, creating a channel does not “take seconds” if you need proof, discord. Its popular because it is so easy to use and the numbers back that up
Uhm, freenode already exists, you don’t have to set up another server just to create a channel. There are clients that are embeddable into webpages as well, so joining an existing channel could be as simple as opening a page for a new user.
Otherwise it’s just install a client, select freenode and join the channel.
I hope Nintendo is able to make emulation illegal once and for all and end all this. People really shouldn’t be allowed to run whatever software they want, they should only be allowed to run Microsoft Windows and the fun games they include on the bonus disc
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I misread that and thought you were d*cking your sister.
They are emoji. Emoticons are these things :( :)
Even beyond the point of “using discord”. Nintendo is reaching harassment levels of assholism. Are they doing even worse that with Gaty Bowser?
They should just spin up their own Lemmy instance
Yeah, and a Matrix instance
I’ll reinforce my comment from months ago: I have the latest version of Yuzu, the keys, the firmware, the Linux and Windows versions, and links to ROM sites, and I’ll distribute them forever to whoever asks in my DMs. I packaged them in a simple .zip with easy to follow instructions.
That said, why simply not use Ryujinx? Even on the Steam Deck performance is very good nowadays. Super Mario Wonder plays at 60 FPS on the Deck (though you need to enable a very simple mod that disables some weird function the game runs, otherwise it drops to 30 FPS all the time). In fact, for AMD GPUs, you’re doing yourself a huge favor by going Ryujinx over Yuzu and derivatives.
Ryujinx is solid, accurate and well known, it’s a trusted emulator. The Yuzu forks are unknown, managed by non experienced people (one was quite literally created by a teenager with zero coding knowledge) and extremely ephemeral.
Ryujinx runs very poorly on older cpus like ryzen 3200G, I played ToTK fine on Yuzu, but on ryujinx the game becomes a slideshow, I also can’t get 60fps on Princess Peach with it.
Yeah Ryujinx is in C# Unity so it has its limits. They wrote Yuzu mostly in C++ so while it tended to be buggy it performed way better.
Matrix is a better Discord.
Jabber is a better Matrix.
Side note, is there there a good open source alternative to Discord in terms of it’s exact functionality? (And I don’t mean as a forum alternative, but voice comms and streaming). After their app update, I’m kind of annoyed with them. Yet, my community is rather dependent on them despite their enshittification.
We got sucked in because you could simply link it to randos on MMOs and if they didn’t want to download an app, could still have voice comms in browser. Before that, we had ventrillo, mumble, etc, but nothing was quite as easy access for randos. But man, they kind of suck lately so… hrm. :/
There’s Revolt.chat
What I hate most about this is how they now moved to Rocket Chat.
Come on people. Use a forum. Get the message, finally. Do it!
I’m pretty sure most of people who mainly use discord as their main social apps probably never touched forum-based internet.
Hosting your own forum is also better as you (the owner of the site) can still retrieve the msgs as long as you still have the access to the host server (so you can back them up in case shutting down, then going to resurfacing later).
Not to mention using discord is already risking yourself because of their shitty policy.
I make lots of use of discord. That does not mean I prefer it to forum style for communication - discord just suits well for one-off joke-y talk
Maybe in my message seems to focus solely on discord for putting the blame… The problem nowadays is that mostly these “devs” share/upload/host their releases in Discord which means you do use Discord’s CDN to host their files. Another common complaint of these practices is that you need to join their server in order to just download relevant files which makes it infuriating if you stumbles across these practices often. For example I joined 8 different discord servers just to download a software/binary/release, why can’t just put the release on something like Mediafire, Google Drive, Megaupload or perhaps sourceforge.
I do understand Discord is communication platform but most of time some people are too lazy to manage stuff so what happen is that everything is hosted in single place as such Discord.
Wait, wtf. People literally post helpful resources and artifacts on discord, and nowhere else? Huh. Just as I thought it is impossible to go lower
Internet is really wide and open if you know direction :)
Even libgen (Library Genesis) still provide IRC as one of option to download ebook from their catalog.
FMHY and Internet Archive is a good entry point if you want to search anything.
What’s a safe way to host a site without anyone being able to track it to you?
I’ll explain it in layman’s terms…
- There is always a price (inconvenience) for secure-ness in online world.
- There’s 2 option to host a forum,
- You can use service like forum hoster or rent a VPS (so you can setup your own server although not self-hosting).
- Self-host yourself (this one a bit tricky if you aren’t prepared).
- Learn some good basic OpSec habit (eg. Never use same password, Never put your personal detail in your active directory especially on your site source document, use 2FA and so on).
- Learn to spot a phising or malicious link and never to randomly click random link in an email (in times when someone tried to social engineering you).
- Use reputable service provider if you are not going to self-host yourself.
- If you happen to self-host, make sure to check your open ports and secure them. Bots always probing any site in the world!
- For some reason if you’re going to run sketchy stuff, never use your real credential. This point may not apply on your region as it depends on your local law.
They need to be using an encrypted platform hosted in a country out of reach of Nintendo
Not platform. Protocol.
Semantics, given the scope and intention of my comment
It’s so goddamn easy to set up a basic forum site for a few bucks a month, and it’s not like there aren’t hundreds of options for file sharing as well.
The Xbox and PSP modding forums were where I used to hang out before Reddit, a well-designed and run forum is so much better than trying to basically make a website out of a chat room.
And it’s a million times better for people trying to troubleshoot.
1 forum post can solve many problems, rather than having to have each person ask in a support chat that’s not searchable.
Technically Discord is trying to solve this with their threads feature, but I’ve found either the server owners don’t force it or the users don’t use it. Either way, it sucks.
Still not the point of a live-chat application. The use case is not the same as a forum. You want an archive where everything is well-organized and most questions have already been answered. Discord and other live chat services are more like live tech support, to fill the gap between the raw technical documentation found in GitHub, and the just getting started guide or FAQ, which are usually lightweight enough that they could be posted anywhere. Discord doesn’t exist to be an archive that holds all the knowledge, discord exists so that when you open an app, you can go in, ask a couple questions, and hopefully someone will get to you in a couple minutes, at most, rather than in a couple days.
“We will repeat in every sentence that we are not a for-profit emulator, we’ll be fine!”
Yeah.
