Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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    I donā€™t think people get how reactionary the captain vimes books are. look at whatā€™s happening in them. in plain english, you have a cop and his band of good apples + adorably bad apples saving the ass of a dictator again and again, because sometimes you just need a clever steady hand in charge. Pratchett was informed by liberal humanist values, and thereā€™s plenty of great stuff about tolerance in there. but the foundation of any vimes novel is an institutionalist urge to bootlicking. it just has to be the right boot

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      It sucks to have to decolonise your darlings. It sucks that a lot of our most enjoyable stories are copaganda. Even the most redeemable stories about cops have probably inspired people to become cops.

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      @sc_griffith

      I think Pratchett understood that, despite people romanticizing revolution, revolutions often end up opening the door to something as bad or worse. Especially in a place like Discworld.

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        @sc_griffith

        In Night Watch:
        ā€œVimes/Keel tells Ned Coates not to put his trust in revolutions ā€œThey always come around again. Thatā€™s why theyā€™re called revolutions. People die, and nothing changesā€ This is a common theme in Pratchett regarding authority figuresā€

        That said Vimes does participate in a revolution of sorts in that book, as ā€œJohn Keelā€, in the past.

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            Books would be really boring if the protagonists were all just the author speaking as themself but using various funny voices.

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              thereā€™s not a lot of ambiguity in what the novels are getting at, so no offense but this line of argument is not worth engaging directly. but I will point out that I didnā€™t say what pratchettā€™s views were. part of why people donā€™t look askance at these books is that his other work is at odds with the realpolitik message Iā€™m pointing out. I canā€™t and I donā€™t draw conclusions about his ā€˜realā€™ views based on the vimes novels