• hark@lemmy.world
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      19 hours ago

      I wish we’d yell at democrats for failing to appeal to voters, which is really one of the most basic responsibilities of a politician.

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        What’s “appeal”?

        If the other side being absolutely fucking insane isn’t itself a reason to vote dem then you’re just a contrarian ass

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        It’s impossible to appeal to everyone. 6 in 10 Americans believe Israel has a right to continue it’s fight with Hamas. 6 in 10 Americans are also sympathetic to both sides of the conflict. The Dems are attempting to thread that needle. And while I don’t agree with the unconditional support of Israel. The US is heavily invested in partnership with Israel and foreign policy has always shifted painfully slow. Despite all the death in the world, the US is involved in the least death it has been involved in since the WWII. We’ve been constantly at war since WWII. And shifting from the US being constantly at war to only arming our allies is at least some improvement.

        One things certain, if Trump wins authoritarians will be emboldened worldwide and the amount of death will increase much much more, including here.

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            6 hours ago

            How they gonna nominate someone that has only every said they will never run for president. Dumbest take I have ever seen on lemmy. Michelle would never be president, she doesn’t want it.

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          Yes the Dems need to win but you’re giving them too much credit. We don’t need to make them sound competent with “they’re threading the needle”, because they aren’t. Doing that will give people a false sense of security that there are adults in the room. At best, the voters are the adults, not the Dems.

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            6 hours ago

            Have you met voters? Pretending like voters are any better would be pretty hilarious if it wasn’t so sad.

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      20 hours ago

      Exactly. It’s the apithetic and doomer non-voters that are the real issue in US elections. Voter turn out is usually abhorrently low.

      People can have all the fights they want about third party votes for president and other high offices, but third parties have great potential to make local/regional change. Sometimes it feels like people forget there is more than just a president in this country.