• SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Bout 80 years actually. The current conflict is settler colonists fighting natives. The religious justification is just that, justification with no history support. Just classic colonization and ethnic cleansing of natives.

    • Fondots@lemmy.world
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      29 minutes ago

      I’d probably push it back to a little over 100 years to include WWI, the fall of the Ottoman Empire, and the British Mandate for Palestine, since that all set the stage for Israel being founded pretty directly, and there had already been a pretty substantial movement for Jews to immigrate to the region by about the '30s (known as the “Fifth Aliyah”) so a bit outside of your 80 year range.

      But of course, none of these events happen in a vacuum, if you want to get really nitpicky, you can start talking about the events that world war 1, trace them way back, through the crusades, the birth of Muhammad, Christianity, the Roman empire, all the way back to the bronze age, and maybe even further if you were able to somehow find decent historical records going that far back.

      Trying to point to one single event as the one that kicked off a certain conflict is tough, because there was always something that led up to that event too, and when you try to unravel it, before too long you might come to a very Douglass Adams-y conclusion that it all started when our first ape ancestors decided to come down from the trees, only for someone else to say that the trees had been a mistake in the first place and that we never should have left the oceans.

    • Snowflake@sh.itjust.works
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      55 minutes ago

      Jewish settlers 80+ years ago bought their land legally. Meaning they legally own the land. Such classic colonization. Somehow after the ethnic cleansing they were left with 10x the population they started with. Seriously cleansed them didn’t they.

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        41 minutes ago

        bought the land legally doesn’t really mean much, the american settlers obtained their land ‘legally’ too.