Slavery was about 99% of what drove the entire thing, so it makes sense to me.
I think it’s a better name. My only issue is that it is an even better name for what happened in Haiti, where the enslaved rose up, defeated their masters, got revenge, and formed a nation.
I wish the nation was more of a success today, but it should still be celebrated as a victory for humanity.
I wish the nation was more of a success today
Me too. You can mostly thank the US and especially France for that tbh. They both extorted Haiti for a debt of lost “property” owed to France. And by “property” I mean formerly enslaved human beings! That shit went on for 122 years and the first annual payment “owed” was of SIX TIMES the annual revenue of Haiti! 🤬
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“No it was about states rights”
“States rights to what?”
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Don’t forget that the south was trying to force the north ro send back escaped slaves, depite the north using their states rights to say no. The south would also send Bounty hunters to go kidnap free born black people to sell into slavery. So yeah, states rights was an issue. The right to identify people as human.
But let’s not also forget that the confederate constitution had a passage that says that there will not be any laws capable of being passed that infringe on the right to own black people
Article I Section 9(4) No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed
Interesting. It didn’t even end Slavery in the US tho
What??
Probably referring to
Essentially allowing slavery.
Can you be more specific? Or is this sarcasm?
Privately owning other people became illegal, but slavery is still allowed “as punishment for crime” according to the 13th amendment. And yeah… it’s still very much a thing. https://apnews.com/article/prison-to-plate-inmate-labor-investigation-c6f0eb4747963283316e494eadf08c4e
Edit: Just saw this: https://lemmy.world/post/14352144
If the prison is owned by a for-profit company and the company they slave for is a for-profit company, doesn’t that make them property of those institutions?
It’s different today in that the people aren’t actually owned in the way that they were before the 13 amendment. Their labor is the property of the company, but they don’t have to purchase themselves back from the prison in order to be released (although prison fees are eerily similar to that practice). The 13th doesn’t specify who can profit off enslaved people’s labor, just that it’s allowed as punishment for crime. But the huge profit incentive to treat people horribly while being free of any OSHA standards or labor laws is one of many reasons for-profit-prisons need to end immediately.
I’m Icelandic and I just learned about this now! To be fair I learned fuck all about pre-20th century US history in school and I’ve basically just puzzled it together through movies and references online.
That goes for most of the world. Why learn about some obscure history that’s not from your own historical path.
I see the alt name for it is something like “bandariska borgarestriden”? Does it mean “borgare” as like in “citizen”, " medborgare". Is that the name for a civil war in islandic? And bandarisk relates to a banner/flag?
It’s actually “Bandaríska borgarastríðið”. “Bandaríkin” is our word for the United States, “borgari” means citizen and “stríð” means war. So yes our word for civil war literally translates to “citizens’ war” since all the participants are citizens of the same nation. Hälsningar från en Isländing i Norge
They call it “Lincoln’s Tax War” in the South.
I’ve also heard “the War of Northern Aggression”. No idea how common either is. I assume it’s just a handful of crazies playing pretend.
I wish it was just a handful of crazies. The Lost Causers have shaped our nation as much as anyone else. Held us back at every step forward.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy
Unfortunately nowhere near enough traitors were hanged for their insurrection and now here we are.
Andrew Johnson, objectively the worst and most destructive president our Union has ever had.
Ronald Regan is right up there with him.
Without Johnson pardoning all the rebels and leaving the cancer in the South to rot and spread we’d probably have never had Reagan as president.
I’m surprised it’s not called the States’ Rights War.
Because only confed apologists use that term, and to my knowledge there are no confed apologists in Iceland.
Not true. It’s still listed as such in most textbooks in the south.🙄
Yes, like I said:
only confed apologists use that term
Yes, as well as every kid that trusts their teacher before having the ability to form their own opinion.
The primary context of your link is very old history textbooks.
States Rights to what, pray tell?
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I prefer “Slaveholders Rebellion”
Ohh I like that.
Slap em a little more on the branding, you didn’t “own” anything, cousin fuckers, you just held them against their will.
In Chinese it’s called 南北戰爭, which means South-North War. Not as interesting as the Icelandic name though
Given Chinese history you’d think that name would be reserved for…well IDK draw any time china wasn’t unified out of a hat lol
Well we do have a period called the Northern and Southern dynasties, but most of the time we are devided into multiple states and it’s hard to tell who is south and who is north, so …