• InfiniteGlitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 months ago

    I think you need a lesson of history, so I will mix two of my older comments here:

    Israel became an actual state in 1948 by displacing 750 000 Palestinian people and murdering many (men, women and children). Laying sieges, bombarding villages and population centers, setting fires to homes, properties and goods. Planting mines among the rubble to prevent any of the expelled people from returning (source: The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by ilan Pappé).

    Now Hamas did not exist until 1987, they became an actual group only in 1987 because of all the actions Israel had done from 1948 up until 1987. Which is approximately 39-40 years after what Israel had done to the Palestinian people.

    From this we can conclude that Hamas did not start this but Israel did and that Hamas is fighting back.

    Israel is currently doing:

    • Stealing land

    • Ethnic cleansing

    • Genocide

    • Calling Palestinians rats, animals and more cruel things

    • Wanting to erase the entire Palestinian race

    • Lying to the world

    • They think they are “superior” than Palestinian people

    • They think and say that Palestinian people are, the “inferior” race

    • Apartheid

    • Sent Palestinian people jail/ prison for no reason (even kids)

    • Beat Palestinian people for no reason or provoke to “get a reason”

    Does these things ring a bell? I’m sure it does because the Nazis were doing the same thing.

    There’s an image which shows the very similarities between Nazis and Israel government.

    EDIT: correcting words & adding more info.

    • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Why did the Palestinians reject the Peel commission partition (and every subsequent two state proposals)? We can’t go back in time. Its unfortunate, but Israel is there now. The question is what should we do now? Genuinely curious. I’m not saying this in defense of Israel. It’s where we are now.

      Edit: also, Israel has done its fair share of atrocities, but there is plenty of blame to go around. It’s not like Hamas and the PLO are free of any criticism. Whenever I see posts unilaterally condemning one side my spider senses start tingling.

      • underisk@lemmy.ml
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        7 months ago

        You’re saying we can’t go back in time like this is ancient history. The prime minister of Israel was born one year removed from its founding. There are people who live in Gaza right now who had family and friends who were massacred by the colonists who are presently squatting on their land.

        Would you be willing to make peace with people who forced you from your home, killed your family, and herded you into the largest open air concentration camp in the world? Do you think those people would be content to live in peace with you, when they continue, to this day, to forcibly evict your people from their homes to move in settlers? It is not the Palestinians responsibility to reconcile this, and Israel has no intention of coexisting.

        • Atin@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          We had a chance of peace with Rabin, but Palestinians would not accept that Israel has much a right to exist as any surrounding Arab country.

          Now we have fools supporting terrorists who would gladly kill those same supporters. Fools that refuse to accept that neither side is completely honest yet also that neither side is completely dishonest.

          We have people that have no understanding of military weapons and tactics telling us that certain things are happening which are probably not the case.

          With all this talk of apartheid and genocide, tell me, Where are Algeria’s Jews? Syria’s? Egypt’s?