• PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee
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    14 days ago

    This is a spin on the truth. Slavery has never not been illegal always been legal per the US constitution, as long as the slaves are prisoners. We had a prop on it to disallow mandatory labor in prisons in California. We voted against it because Americans have a hard-on for punishment. Personally I think being caged is punishment enough, ESPECIALLY when you consider the sheer volume of for profit prisons in the US. Hurray, private business can keep doing slavery in the state -_-

    It has been and still is legal in federal law across the US

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      15 days ago

      How is it a spin on the truth? Forced labor sounds a lot like slavery and they voted in favor of it. Just because some people justify slavery with a reason like “criminals deserve it!” or “but look at their skin color!” doesn’t change that they’re voting for slavery. Just because the criteria isn’t directly skin color (80% of prisoners are not non-hispanic white… so its pretty much is still forced labor based on skin color) doesn’t change it at all.

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        14 days ago

        Wow you really put a lot of cheap assumptions on what my point was instead of just waiting for me to answer (especially when I said exactly why it was a spin the first time…), you kind of suck. Stop assuming the worst as step 1 in how you deal with other people.

        The spin is they took the truth “this will continue to be legal in California and the US” and spun it into something that makes it sound like its just California, like were upholding some ancient California law. It is a shifting of the narrative that this is legal across the entire country, which is much more concerning, and making it seem like this is a California only problem.

        Also the title saying the US is collapsing, being active tense, implies that this decision is part of the cause or a symptom of, like this hasn’t been in the US Constitution since 1864.

        But yeah were definitely collapsing, just for other reasons lol

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      14 days ago

      Slavery has never not been illegal per the US constitution

      ???

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      14 days ago

      And yet, California voted affirmatively to be a slave state in 2024. I did not have that on my 2024 bingo card.

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        14 days ago

        continue to be a slave state*

        Like the rest of the entire country already is*

        My point being that it should be more shocking to people that this is the way of the country as a whole instead of framing it as a California only problem.

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          It takes a 2/3rds majority of both legislative chambers, and 2/3rds of the states to pass a new amendment. There’s not any question as to why we’re still stuck with that line in an amendment passed in the 1860’s.

          California has never before held a referendum on slavery and was admitted as a state in 1850 as a “Free State” because of a compromise on the national level.

          In 2024, they voted for slavery. They can no longer hide behind the onerous process of editing the 13th amendment. They specifically voted in favor of slavery.

          That’s fucking huge.