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      Yea, I’d say Win10/11 is on the same good/shit cycle as always

      Though whether Win12 breaks it and continues the shitty trend is highly likely at this point

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          7 > 10 > 8 > 11

          On this graph 10 should be where 8 is and 8 should be where 10 is, 11 is exactly where it should be

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          I’d call it a damped spring oscillation. Still goes up and down, but the extremes peter out with time.

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      Definitely, yes. Win8 was unusable on desktops but was pretty good on tablets, win10 sucks on both. But the main thing is that spyware/bloatware explosion happened in win10. Xbox services, onedrive, cortana, that weather thing with msn news, fucking candy crush preinstalls, etc, all came with win10.

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      Try to install windows 10 on hdd and see for yourself, Linux works fine no matter which device it’s loaded from, windows before 10 did too

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        Windows philosophy is that it comes pre-installed and should be used with recent hardware. You may think of that what you will (environment wise etc), but to me that’s a valid design choice to make, in principle.

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            No, but what are you going to do? Install WIn10 on a computer that’s too old and doesn’t meet the minimum specs?

            If you have a 2010 computer, it’s either old Windows or Linux, modern WIndows is going to suck, if it even works. Ergo, i can’t think of a circumstance where you’d want/have to install Win10 on a hard drive instead of an SSD.

            Maybe shits and giggles, similar to running Doom on random stuff? If someone has more imagination than me then i’m open

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              Modern linux mint with zram works flawlessly on lga775 4gb ram and Nvidia gt210 and hdd as main and only drive

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          I guess it depends on what your standards are for ‘fine’, or maybe it’s a 10k rpm drive. Win 10 on a standard HDD is dog shit, I personally had to upgrade several offices from HDD to SSD when Windows 10 came out.

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            Got any recommendations for backing up / migrating systems to a new drive? I’d be willing to try it but I don’t forsee enough benefit to warrant reinstalling everything on that machine.

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              If you have a hard drive reader and spare thumb drive it’s not too hard. Just put clonezilla on the thumb drive, boot it, put the new drive in the reader, and clone your old drive onto the new one.

              Back in the day I usually just put a fresh install on the SSD and downloaded their personal files from the network copy. I found that upgrading from 7 to 10 had a uncomfortably high failure rate, so it was easier to just put a fresh install of 10 on and go from there.

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                  The sad thing about being a Windows user is they’ve got you between a rock and a hard place. You either upgrade or lose support, and in a lot of cases you can’t upgrade without buying a new system.

                  I know a lot of people resist learning Linux, but it really is the only way out of the cycle. You can start small at first, dip your toes in. Before long it will feel more natural and familiar than the next release from Redmond. On that day you will be free.

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                    It certainly is coming to an end, but Windows 7 had a good run for support and Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC (2021) has until 2027. But for sure people should get really comfortable with Linux soon.

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          I’ve ran through 3 win 10 HDD computers and they all had sorts of performance issues with HDD. I don’t think it was tested beyond bootup for HDD.