• gibmiser@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Is this an honest initiative? I’m pretty skeptical of China trying to do the right thing here…

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    3 days ago

    Is it algorithms or intolerant people that create echo chambers?

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      3 days ago

      There’s been pretty exhaustive writings about how YouTube radicalizes people and pushes them in certain directions, so I think it’s pretty safe to say that while it’s both algorithms do play a significant part

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        I don’t think radicalization and echo chambers are the same thing. Radicalization might end up creating an echo chamber but that is usually at the end of the radicalization process.

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        3 days ago

        Look at the whole bluesky thing. That’s people self-selecting to create an echo chamber, without an algorithm placing them there, ain’t it?

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            3 days ago

            with some people unwittingly being mired in something and being led to believe that it is far more popular and normal than what it is, based entirely on their ever-increasing exposure to that thing

            Very apt description, thank you.

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                I would think this analogy is a bridge to far, as both (1) people are free to not participate in the case of specific online communities, and (2) prison population isn’t a great representation of the total population.

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          Is a bunch of people collectively decided they don’t want to hang out with Nazis really an echo chamber? I mean if so I guess we got to get rid of that negative connotation of Echo chamber.

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            That’s exactly what I’m pondering?

            “If a bunch of people collectively decide that they don’t want to poison kids with vaccines really an echo chamber?”

            “If a bunch of people collectively decide that they don’t want to support a genocide really an echo chamber?”

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            For each respective echo chamber, the subjective experience shared is us-vs-them. Self selecting, instead of forced by algorithms? Maybe an echo chamber isn’t so bad, as I’m obviously correct in my particular case?

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              Yeah I’m not quite sure what you’re trying to imply here, but I’m 100% totally okay with an US versus them when the them is Nazis. Fuck Nazis.