The former is a statement of well-documented fact

You literally JUST admitted that most Americans would not be in favor of suspending aid to Israel.

Are you even trying?

The FUCK are you babbling about??

The fuck do you think a Trump victory is

At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.

Okay, let me remind you of what started this little conversation. The other guy saying

I bet most would vote to end genocide

So you wanna explain how

At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.

Groks with that?

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/americans-split-continuing-military-aid-israel

“Your poll is from February!” he says, as he posts a poll from February. “Your poll is within the margin of error, just 1%!” he says, as posts a poll within the margin of error, literally just 1%. But hey, opting for no “Unsure” or “Neither” option really makes your ‘majority support’ of 48% ‘more likely to vote for’ (and notably not an actual policy position) that much more convincing.

lmao

Fascist hypocrisy is so predictable. More than their trains, that’s for sure.

I didn’t realize “Your poll is older!” is a response to “Your poll literally doesn’t say what you claim it does”.

Even disregarding that, it’s interesting that you’re trying to paint a one percent difference between the favors and opposes as “majority of Americans”,

Funny, if you go back through our comments, the only person claiming that a majority of Americans would be voting for or against something is… you.

Huh. Weird. Almost like projection is one of the few tools you have.

But sure, 36% is a majority. Great math you have there. Like the math the Italian fascists used to ‘make the trains run on time’.

It’s amazing that you post the screenshot and STILL don’t read it correctly. Here, let me remind you of what you originally said:

If ending genocide was actually a choice on the ballot instead of two ghouls who both support genocide, I bet most would vote to end genocide.

Thinking most people would be against genocide is spreading misinformation?

But fascists aren’t well-known for their stunning memory of what they said in the past ten minutes either, so that’s not a surprise.

Of course, the fact that you explicitly advocate for voting for a genocide of American minorities makes this position, in context, utterly unsurprising.

I remember pointing out this poll to you before months ago, but you decided to ignore it because you’re like a republican who loves projection.

Funny, because I remember that exchange, and I pointed out that “Disapproves of Israel’s actions” and “Supports removing aid” are two entirely different things, and supported that with a poll showing the difference between the two. But fascists like you have a very loose relationship with the truth.

Considering that most Americans currently support continued aid to Israel, yes. Not that facts matter to you, considering how badly you want fascism in the US.

Ah, yes, remember how the Social Democrats called the Communists ‘social fascists’ and refused to work with them?

Oh, wait, sorry, I got it reversed, my bad.

Proceeds to make arguments justifying genocide

“Justifying genocide is when you oppose genocide, and the more you oppose it, the more you justify it” - Very Serious Lemmings

Alternatively, “The prospect of an eventual violent revolution justifies genocide” - Very Serious Lemmings

Or more realistically, “I think that the prospect of virtue signaling without affecting government policy justifies genocide, because that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside” - Very Serious Lemmings

I bet most would vote to end genocide

That’s curious considering all the polls to the contrary. But spreading misinformation is your primary pastime on here, so I shouldn’t be surprised.

Well, they ran out of war machines too

Flak, with an L.

I only clarify because in a situation where every able body is fighting you’ve already lost, there needs to be logistics, maintaining utilities, growing food, etc

Conscription is actually a way to ensure that. In the Ukrainian War, as well as at least the US during WW2 (I’m less familiar with other countries’ conscription systems during WW2), conscription is used to prioritize those with skills which are not economically vital during wartime - during WW2, even, some skilled workers weren’t even allowed to volunteer, much less be conscripted, for military service.

Safety issue/margin, I would presume, whereas the cruise ship was trying to set a record and thus probably got whoever was in charge to waive the normal standards.

Reverse it - Murder Stroke let’s goooooo

I think it’s real - Corinth Canal.

Although the canal saves the 700-kilometre (430 mi) journey around the Peloponnese, it is too narrow for modern ocean freighters, as it can accommodate ships only of a width up to 17.6 metres (58 ft) and draft up to 7.3 metres (24 ft). In October 2019, with over 900 passengers on board, a 22.5 metres (74 ft) wide and 195 metres (640 ft) long Fred. Olsen Cruise Lines cruise ship successfully traversed the canal to set a new record for longest ship to pass through the canal. Ships can pass through the canal only one convoy at a time on a one-way system. Larger ships have to be towed by tugs.[37] The canal is currently used mainly by tourist ships; around 11,000 ships per year travel through the waterway.[38]

Hope you’re right. I’m all-in for a Biden victory, of course, because I’m not a lunatic or a fascist, but God, Biden ain’t good for my nerves, that much is for sure.

I’m on your side, man. I’m on here bitching on “BOTH SIDES” types all day long. I’m voting for Biden (or, on the off-chance he’s replaced, whoever the fuck is put up as a viable alternative to Trump). Voting to intensify genocide, as with a vote for Trump or a failure to oppose Trump with one’s vote, is never acceptable.

It’s just that we also must accept, as citizens, that we bear a part of the responsibility of this mess, and at no point can we look back at this and say “Well, as the American people, our choice to tepidly support genocide wasn’t THAT bad, or geopolitical concerns justified it”

Our choice is dogshit. Even if it was 100% reversed now, it would remain dogshit, albeit much less dogshit than continuing or intensifying it. And we have to square with that on our souls.