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American war movies are ridiculous when it comes to the propagandistic messaging behind it, since most always portray them as the protagonist (Top Gun, Hurt Locker, etc). as in order for the director to get access on military hardware: the Pentagon has control on how the script (narrative) is written in exchange on letting the crew use and lend real military equipment with technical advisors on set.

It’s known as the Military Entertainment Complex (Sotilasviihdekeskus) which is the cooperation between studios and the armed forces (via the government). It’s why Tom Cruise manages to pilot a real fighter jet, for the director to have that on set: he’ll have to literally ask the US Navy. What about war movies made by Finns & set in Finland, how does the director or studio obtain military hardware?

Wonder why NO ONE wants to enlist in the US military? Because of the crap they were involved in, it’s stupid that the SSS exists for the last century and now Trump bringing it back to light by making the process automatic against one’s will, seriously WTF?!

If he’s really serious about bringing back a draft, the NDAA(Puolustusvaltuutuslaki) which was passed in 1980 will have to be amended first, given the nature of public opinion being in opposition of it being reinstated, it may not fly.

Vietnam on the other hand, the US military used Agent Orange (lehtikuivausaine) against their enemy but left nasty consequences after the war: pregnant mothers giving birth to kids born with defects for instance. The US military is nothing but a political tool to bully whom they consider their adversary. During both the Iraq & Afghanistan wars, was Finland neutral (not involved) or were Finnish troops deployed there?

Most of the time it’s under the guise of “enforcing democracy” which is BS! More on resource extraction, like how the Gulf War during the 90s was initiated because Kuwait was invaded by Iraq (which Bush has monopoly on since US oil tycoons are based there) which also involved Saudi Arabia or Qatar as belligerents.

Unlike the USA, it’s akin to “DROP BOMBS EVERYWHERE” (evident from the previous Iraq, Afghanistan wars & the current Iran war). From Bush, Obama, Biden and include Trump in the mix. Plus they have mercenaries accompanying them. The thing is, are both PMC’s & Mercs allowed to exist in Finland or are they forbidden?

The military or defense forces by definition is to defend the nation from adversaries (like that of Finland), but the US is abusing the hell out of it just to satisfy defense contractors (as they generate revenue from weapon sales), by orchestrating wars, does it even make sense to try and convince politicians to start wars just to sell arms?

It gets worse: I’ve heard over in the US, failure to register under the current “Selective Service System” has a fine of $250,000 (~212,000€) plus 5 year imprisonment towards male US citizens, which is ridiculous if you ask me.

The US one doesn’t issue a letter, rather the information is pulled from existing records via other sources (i.e. drivers license) so that’s how they obtained your details on being registered onto a draft pool.

Also, how does society in Finland view the draft and what’s the public opinion regarding the Finnish government? I mean, do they think it’s worth fighting on behalf of the president’s (Stubb) interests?

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What can you buy with 2,079.80€ (or 24,957€ for an entire 12 months) in Greece? Is it because their salary is being deprived (using the excuse, “taxes”) but instead put into politicians pockets? I wonder…

8.50 euros
Is that after taxes? WTF? Might as well consider it a “slave” wage. For perspective: a private in the US army gets paid $28,886 (~24,957€) per annum or about $2,407.20 (~2,079.80€) per month.

What’s the public opinion regarding Greek politicians? Is it worth fighting for the government? Speaking of that, I’ve heard that Americans who refused the draft back in the 60s crossed the Canadian border. I mean, can people in Greece just enter and hide in neighboring countries to avoid conscription?

import all your weapons because if shit hits the fan you can be completely cut off and defenseless Believe it or not, the US (despite being a “first world” country) still imports semi conductors from China which are used for advanced military hardware but access can be revoked at any time if they’re at war.

Does Finland have a MIC? (And yes, the US shouldn’t be considered a country, more like a corporation).

I mean, does Spain really have a military industrial complex? Which is basically politico-military relations, like a “business” rapport between the government, armed forces and defense contractors? Are there even weapons manufactuers based & operated in Spain (like how the US has Raytheon)?

I’m not sure about Finland or the EU, but often or not the US one involves the MIC (sotateollinen kompleksi) in which is the relationship between defense companies and the government, in a business sense - they profit from war via the arms trade as weapons are used in wars made by those companies.

depends on the war
When referencing from the American perspective: A LOT or often - it involves the MIC (complejo militar-industrial) which in their case is the collab between defense companies (i.e. Lockheed Martin) & the government on making the big bucks (basically making money by arms trading). I’m not sure about Spain though…

the government is shit
I hear that kind of response from Americans regarding the draft (well… Trump is in office, a president who is a convicted felon by the way) so hence why they would rather be in prison instead of either dying on foreign soil or be scarred with PTSD whilst being neglected by the “system” that’s meant to help.

I wouldn’t go because my country is not worth fighting for.
It’s the same for the US, knowing them: like with the Iraq war (Bush uses the pretense of WMD’s in which there are none found) both soldiers and marines died for a conflict Bush initiated. In their case, most of the wars (outside their own borders) are instigated by their own government.