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  • ModCen@feddit.uktoMemes@lemmy.ml•Amerikkka every election LMBO
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    20 days ago

    Sometimes that means recognizing there’s nobody worth voting for in a given race and agreeing - collectively - that you’re not going to support anyone.

    I guess I personally don’t really agree with that approach. People are free to take that approach of course. But it reminds me of people refusing to vote for Kamala Harris because her Israel policy wasn’t quite perfect, when all this did was help Trump, who quite clearly was always going to take a much more pro-Israel position.

    Just going out and slapping buttons and saying “Okay what’s next?” is a sucker’s gambit.

    One vote doesn’t make a big difference I guess. But like you said, you can join organisations, and those organisations can have much bigger political impacts. Maybe voting is necessary but not sufficient if you want to bring about political change.



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    21 days ago

    Voting can definitely bring change. Look at Zohran Mamdani in NYC. The reason he’s mayor, instead of someone else, is because enough people voted for him.

    But if you’re not satisfied with voting alone then you can get more involved with politics. Join a party, or start a party. Join a trade union, or start one, if you want. Things like that.









  • I’m not saying I agree with people who have “concerns about immigration”. I might agree with them on some very limited points, while disagreeing on many points.

    I’m just saying that Burnham and Labour need to have broad appeal among different kinds of British voters if they’re going to keep Reform out of number 10. So I guess that’s why Labour are trying to take a view of “yes we recognise concerns about high immigration, e.g. regarding pressure on public services, and we plan to deal with immigration in a fair and humane manner”.








  • I guess the reality is that a lot of people in this country have concerns about immigration. I don’t have the same views as many of those people, but they exist. So I guess Burnham is trying to take a line of “concerns about immigration are okay, and Labour are trying to reduce illegal immigration, but we don’t believe the tactics of recent protestors are a good thing”.

    Perhaps the polls are indicating that Labour needs to win over both of these types of voters in order to keep Reform out of number 10:

    • Voters with very few concerns about immigration who are worried about protestors in balaclavas blocking roads
    • Voters who do have concerns about immigration and slightly sympathise with anti-migrant protestors, but perhaps they don’t like Tories/Reform because they see those as parties for rich people (which they are)