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  • But you say extreme action is not the way to fix it. I mean, what other way is there?

    I don’t think I’ve said that. What I’ve said is that juries returning “not guilty” verdicts when the facts of the case say otherwise, just because they feel positive about the accused’s actions, would be a problem for the reasons I’ve listed above.

    I too hope he is found not guilty, but on the facts of the case. Whether that is because the defense manage to cause doubt as to the identification of the shooter, or they manage to make a case for diminished responsibilty or self defense, it would be ok. Successfully making a self-defense defense would send a very strong message to other CEOs.







  • The problem is that those issues have, and continue to, cause damage to the Linux project. Good maintainers have been hounded out, or simply given up, and bad blood exists where it absolutely shouldn’t. You’re right that much of it is political, although that usually stems from deep technical differences backed up by corporate encouragement. Political turmoil can be as damaging, if not moreso, than technical differences. At least technical differences can usually be resolved technically, politics is infinitely more nuanced.

    From Marcan’s description, the way certain people treated him was absolutely unacceptable, although I’ve no doubt they’d describe things very differently. I hope the whole kernel team, maintainers and contributers, can find a way to work through these differences and work more harmoniously before more members end up burnt out, frustrated and bitter.


  • I was making a distinction between ‘the people’ in general, and ‘the jury’. The people can, and should, consider the ethics of the law, and act appropriately. In less extreme cases that might involve encouraging your local legislator to push for changes in the law. We’ve seen the results in more extreme cases. Juries on the other hand should judge the case in front of them on its facts, rather than their feelings about the defendant and their actions. We’ve seen the results of juries not doing so, with lynch mobs getting away without consequence, and other defendants being found guilty for the color of their skin.

    As to your point regarding the problem of those in power simply ignoring the law, you’re right, that is a problem, and one which I doubt will be solved without extreme action. It is, of course, possible that in four years this gang will peacefully hand over to a less criminal administration, but I’m not confident of that. Even if they do, rebuilding trust in the concept of the law being applied equally and fairly will be a massive, and long term, challenge.

    This is supposed to be uplifting news though, so let us hope that his defence can find a compelling argument and the jury can find him not guilty without recourse to tactics that might make the overall situation worse.




  • Fair point, so maybe take a view on whether they’ve turned up with heavy machinery or just kidnap cars. In the OP’s case they don’t have time to prep, so they’re going to have to play things as they are. If you’re in a situation like this and do have time, you could find better ways to be able to blockade the road as needed. The blockage doesn’t need to last very long, even delaying their entry by minutes might give more people time to escape. Blocking their way out slows this operation and the next one. Once people know they’re in the area they lose the element of surprise.




  • Yeah, I don’t think he gets a pass by blaming his behaviour on mental health issues, but a lot of people bring it up. I watch people like him, and I’m fairly convinced they don’t have the principals to actually, deep down, be Nazis, they’re too vain, too self-centred and too desperate for power of any sort. That doesn’t mean they won’t fly that particular flag if they think it’ll bring them what they want, or that they wont cheer on the harm it brings to others if they think it gets them closer to power. Functionally, you can treat them as Nazis, traitors and whatever else they align themselves with. With luck they will reap the consequences of that.


  • Could I offer an alternative viewpoint? I don’t know if it’s true, and if it is I don’t know if it’s better or worse. His style of ‘music’ holds no interest for me, and I know nothing more than what I have read about him, so I could be wildly off base.

    As many have pointed out, he might well have a mental health issue, but is it not also possible that he is, and always has been, just totally amoral and has seen which way the wind is blowing? He seems to have sonewhat list relevance recently, and fixating on, and loudly proclaiming your hatred of, a chosen ‘other’ group may seem like a good way to get back into the centre of attention and curry favour with those in power.

    I don’t think that would be any better than him being a dyed-in-the-wool Nazi, as functionally it means he is one, but might explain a rapid appearance his Nazism.