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    What’s hard to believe is none of the previous presidents committed any single crime, while this one committed at least 64 and ‘nobody knew’. US intelligence agencies lose huge credibility.

    No one has made that claim except you.

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      Eh, I’ve seen a bunch of “Trump is our first criminal president” memes. Which really requires you to blind yourself to everyone from Nixon and his wiretapping to Obama and his extrajudicial drone-striking.

      But he’s not the first President to pay out hush money. He’s not the first President to abuse his campaign war chest. He’s certainly not the first President to cheat on his wife. Trump is simply the first person who has won the presidency and been so poorly politically connected that he’s endured a full federal felony prosecution. That says much more about the role of the criminal justice system than the conduct of any given president.

      In a sane and just world, I’m hard pressed to name a President who shouldn’t have been thrown behind bars at some point.

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        he’s endured a full federal prosecution

        If you’re going simp for the tangerine Mussolini, at least get your facts straight: this was a STATE prosecution.

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          Excuse me, felony prosecution.

          And when you consider how many federal indictments have staled out or been dismissed, you begin to see the scope of the problem. The Biden DOJ is toothless in the face of a mafia kingpin. You need the state courts to step in precisely because the federal courts are so stacked in favor of protecting political elites.

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        Eh, I’ve seen a bunch of “Trump is our first criminal president” memes. Which really requires you to blind yourself to everyone from Nixon and his wiretapping to Obama and his extrajudicial drone-striking.

        No it doesn’t because Donald is the first proven convicted felon in a court of law. That’s just a fact. The rest is basically a Two-Wrongs-Make-a-Right / Tu Quoque / Whataboutism argument that suggests a race-to-the-bottom mindset while people speculate over allegations of former Presidents without actually testing those theories in a court of law and in front of a Jury. We should be gleeful that Lady Justice has grabbed Don by the balls and even the President is no longer above the law — regardless of past actions of Presidents; clearly a new standard has been made now which is a great thing for our country.

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          Donald is the first proven convicted felon

          Only because none of the other assholes got prosecuted.

          That’s a flaw in the Good Ole Boy Network of ex-Presidents, where Obama and Bush Jr can have a beer over illegal drone strikes and wiretaps together. It has nothing to do with which Presidents actually committed crimes.

          We should be gleeful that Lady Justice has grabbed Don by the balls

          Let me know if he serves any prison time. We already learned how Trump skates around financial judgement against him.

          Past that, it should be revealing how easy it is to convict these assholes. All 34 counts stuck. Maybe more Presidents should be put on trial, rather than making this particular screwball fascist an exception to the rule.