Yes, because if there’s anything the last 10 years of politics has taught us is that the Democrats need to care more about precedent than holding elected officials accountable
The rule of law is important, that’s the entire point. It’s being flouted openly in all corners or our government. I can support a just government, but we do not have one, and we do not stand a chance of instating one without removing the openly corrupt one that we have in place. Simple as that.
We don’t want to make it acceptable for a governor to remove a mayor because they feel like it.
“Because they feel like it?” Are you unaware of the charges against him or something? This isn’t based on feelings it’s based on the crimes he’s committed while in office that he and Trump are trying to sweep under the rug.
The “they feel like it” would be for the next time not this situation. This is why it is important to nit create bad precedents like this
Considering the GOP is so good about following “precedent?” How absurd. This law is specific to NY so what other states are you referring to when you claim that other governors might do this too?
Because hoping for the plane to right itself is fucking stupid. There’s one group that thinks the rules still apply, while the other group is climbing through windows with knives.
That’s where we disagree. If there’s plenty of evidence then we can’t always wait on our justice system where the rich and powerful can use their resources to stall almost indefinitely. In this case, he will likely serve the remainder of his term without any repercussions.
Is the law being more closely followed by letting him remain in office despite taking bribes? I suppose in your opinion Trump is perfectly fine to do whatever he wants now that the “rule of law” says that he can.
And who exactly denied him the right to defend himself? IIRC it was Trump that ordered these charges to be dropped, and who knows what Adams got in return. It’s not like people are asking the NY govorner to send him to prison. He is a civil servant and there is a legal process already in place to remove corrupt mayors that is not being followed. Why are you licking the boots of the oligarchs so hard?
A letter to Hochul stating “I didn’t do it, you didn’t see me do it, you can’t prove it if I did do it, and no way was my deal with Trump a quid pro quo” qualifies as an opportunity to defend himself, as well.
I didn’t miss a damn thing. The governor has a process available to dismiss him. That /\ is the process. Therefore, removing the mayor would not be extra judicial.
Yes, because if there’s anything the last 10 years of politics has taught us is that the Democrats need to care more about precedent than holding elected officials accountable
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It is not only acceptable but is required when the judicial system is compromised how it is.
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The rule of law is important, that’s the entire point. It’s being flouted openly in all corners or our government. I can support a just government, but we do not have one, and we do not stand a chance of instating one without removing the openly corrupt one that we have in place. Simple as that.
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“Because they feel like it?” Are you unaware of the charges against him or something? This isn’t based on feelings it’s based on the crimes he’s committed while in office that he and Trump are trying to sweep under the rug.
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Considering the GOP is so good about following “precedent?” How absurd. This law is specific to NY so what other states are you referring to when you claim that other governors might do this too?
This whole fucking story is about a law on record. They’re not talking about just taking Adams out back for a summary execution.
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“They go low, we go high” has been so extremely useful in the last 10 years or so.
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Because hoping for the plane to right itself is fucking stupid. There’s one group that thinks the rules still apply, while the other group is climbing through windows with knives.
Yes? Don’t you think Trump should have been removed from office in his first term?
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That’s where we disagree. If there’s plenty of evidence then we can’t always wait on our justice system where the rich and powerful can use their resources to stall almost indefinitely. In this case, he will likely serve the remainder of his term without any repercussions.
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Is the law being more closely followed by letting him remain in office despite taking bribes? I suppose in your opinion Trump is perfectly fine to do whatever he wants now that the “rule of law” says that he can.
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And who exactly denied him the right to defend himself? IIRC it was Trump that ordered these charges to be dropped, and who knows what Adams got in return. It’s not like people are asking the NY govorner to send him to prison. He is a civil servant and there is a legal process already in place to remove corrupt mayors that is not being followed. Why are you licking the boots of the oligarchs so hard?
Can you quote the specific law you feel is being ignored?
If you were being investigated by the FBI for corruption and openly pulled a quid pro quo with a political figure, would you still have a job?
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Not according to NY law, as there is no mention of a trial in the relevant statute.
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A letter to Hochul stating “I didn’t do it, you didn’t see me do it, you can’t prove it if I did do it, and no way was my deal with Trump a quid pro quo” qualifies as an opportunity to defend himself, as well.
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Such a removal would not be extra judicial: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PBO/33
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I didn’t miss a damn thing. The governor has a process available to dismiss him. That /\ is the process. Therefore, removing the mayor would not be extra judicial.
Quit moving the goal posts.
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I’m sorry, I must be blind. Please point out the word “trial” in that section of the New York State Constitution.
All I see is “… after giving to such officer a copy of the charges against him and an opportunity to be heard in his defense.”
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Be my guest. I’d like to see how many of the words in your “explanation” fail to appear in the quoted section of the NYS Constitution.
Seems to me if the author meant a trial, they’d have used the word trial.
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Being removed from office is not “punishment.”
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His elected position is not a possession. Taking it away is not punishment.
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