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        They precede Capitalism, sure, but in our modern world it’s easy to draw the line between those and Capitalism. Capitalism is very effective at incentivizing these.

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        4 months ago

        There were no unemployed during the communist era because they were sent to jail. Yay!

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        4 months ago

        Unemployment is necessary under capitalism. Employees point to the suffering of unemployed people as an implicit threat to their workers. Look how bad off those people without jobs are, you’d better do what I say if you don’t want to be one of them. Don’t ask for more money or better treatment, you’re not valuable or special, there’s a hundred unemployed people out there who would work cheaper than I’m paying you so watch your mouth.

        Who’d stay at a job where they’re treated like shit, if they weren’t afraid of the consequences of defying their employers? Capitalism doesn’t work without starving, unemployed workers as an implicit threat to keep the others in line.

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      4 months ago

      Socialism. When properly implemented, it has a fair amount in common with capitalism but you keep what you earn, the disabled aren’t left to die, and billionaires aren’t an option.

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        The only one of these I can see socialism eliminating is unemployment. You can easily have dictators and wars with socialism.

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          4 months ago

          Socialism contains within it pressures against war and dictatorship, while Capitalism contains within it pressures towards war and dictatorship. Socialism alone wouldn’t outright eliminate dictators and war, but would go a very long way towards eliminating them over time.