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      You sure about that? “From the river to the sea” is open to interpretation, but many (including Hamas) use it with a genocidal meaning. Everyone that uses this phrase should know about this meaning and know what it signals to others. So yes, people are talking about a genocide of Israeli people, i.e. Jews.

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            seems obvious you want to paint Israel as a victim and intentionally misunderstand what you’re being told.

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              Where did I paint Israel as the victim? They are obviously responsible for mass destruction and reckless killing of thousands of people. What I say is that you don’t get the complexity of the conflict, that you just focus on one side of it and that calling for the destruction for the Israeli state is very problematic. There seem to be so many people that try to ignore either side of the conflict. “Oh, the Palestinians are all Hamas and we are just defending us” vs “Oh, the Israelis are all genocidal colonialists and we have to destroy them”. Neither of both is true and we would benefit from trying to move away from a Palestine vs Israel narrative and try to rather organize against the Israeli government as well as Hamas.

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                8 months ago

                Where did I paint Israel as the victim

                when you parroted the propaganda that these anarchists are anitsemitic genocide enablers

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                  “Antisemitic genocide enablers”? What genocide are we talking about now? I think you might be so locked in in this us vs them mentality that you don’t hear what I say but try to forcibly put it in the “them” category.

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                you don’t get the complexity of the conflict

                you don’t know what I “get”

                how did you find this community?!

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                  Well, it is really obvious what you don’t get. I’m an anarchist, why wouldn’t I be in this community. Are you trying to push a normative standard on me and say that only people with the same opinion as you can be in this space? Just because I criticize some specific actions that imo are counterproductive doesn’t mean I’m not an anarchist. That’s just political discourse.

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                    your discourse is patronizing and disrespectful to me and my ability to understand what’s going on. you are hijacking a discussion about how to stop a colonialist genocide to wring your hands about oppressed people possibly winning and treating their occupiers like they’ve been treated.

                    I don’t believe you’re an anarchist because you are derailing a solidarity action and accusing anarchists of being antisemitic.