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      Who said anything about utopias? I’m talking about states that went from feudal colonial hellholes to industrial powers with raising standards of living

      China, the Soviet Union, Cuba, Allende’s Chile, Burkina Faso, Vietnam, all of them achieved an explosion of prosperity that required capitalist states to engage in war, genocide, terrorism and blockades to contain their demonstration effect

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          What you THINK is irrelevant, it’s an undeniable fact all those countries experienced an incredible explosion of development and raising standards of living compared to what they had before and after US intervention experienced mass death, crashes and falling life expectancy

          Also in what universe is China and Vietnam not prosperous? They experienced the greatest decrease of poverty in human history, are you ok?

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              Literally the last famine in Chinese history, when before they were regular and far more severe occurrences

              Meanwhile let’s see what actual scientific studies about the time period say: An exploration of China’s mortality decline under Mao: A provincial analysis, 1950–80 (study) well, well, well that sure sucks for you

              Damn, and all you have is a busted wiki article filled with debunked claims and contradictory sources by anti-communist think tanks

              Again the curse of being a correct Tankie who has to deal with chuds; you people never know wtf you’re talking about, and have to rely on fabrications and long dedunked propaganda to back unserious arguments that you likely picked up from reddit

              You got to do better