• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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      8 months ago

      The bus was headed off a cliff regardless of who got elected.

      There is no easy fix and no strategy that’s actually likely to work. What we need is an actual left-wing party. We can either try to push the Democrats in that direction, which fundamentally requires holding them to some basic standard and disciplining them when they fail to live up to it, or we can form a new party from the ground up. Both of those strategies are furthered by voting third party. Of course, there are also strategies that don’t rely on electoralism, such as a general strike, but this is also furthered by supporting a third party like PSL which engages in and promotes direct action.

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        8 months ago

        You’re fucking up your own metaphor now because the Dems would have been the ditch crash which is better than the total destruction of driving off the cliff. But it doesn’t matter what anyone says you’ll just both sides it.

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          8 months ago

          The other one says they won’t punch you, but you know they probably will. The other one says he’ll shoot you and your whole family.

          That’s not the situation. One says that he’ll shoot me and my whole family, the other says she’ll shoot me and my whole family with a rainbow painted gun.

          That demented clown was pretty openly saying he’ll turn USA into fascist dictatorship if he’s elected, and now he’s doing it and apparently speedrunning towards ww3 because he didn’t get the nobel peace price or some insane shit.

          Frankly, I think every president since at least Bush has been a fascist dictator. Everything that Trump is able to do now is because of the massive expansion of executive power and the massive curtailing of civil rights that happened after 9/11 with full bipartisan support, and the democratic presidents since then have done nothing to rein in or revoke those powers.

          Meanwhile, economic conditions have gotten worse and worse, leading to a rise in political extremism, which has no outlet except for the right. Maintaining the status quo is suicide, it guarantees that we will continue sliding into fascism.

          The only option is to push for an alternative, no matter how desperate it is. Every political movement starts somewhere.

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              8 months ago

              You mean that we could’ve stalled efforts to build a political movement until the situation was even worse.

              The choice to vote Democrat is also a choice not to vote PSL. If it cost nothing, then I would’ve done it, give me ranked choice voting and I will put the Democrats above the Republicans. But I consider it more important to support people who would actually fix the situation if they got power.

              people there are getting murdered

              Who was George Floyd?

              and dragged into concentration camps

              Who built the camps?

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                  8 months ago

                  All things being equal, it is better that they do it openly and that more people are aware of it.

                  and you might never get to vote again

                  This is nonsense. The US Presidential Election is the most popular reality TV show of all time.