• silence7@slrpnk.netOP
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    What he did do was get vaccine distribution working. That made a world of difference in fatality rates

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      The person you responded to has not one iota of good faith. I’ve seen them in dozens of threads pushing accelerationist lies. They want this country to burn.

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      What an accomplishment to distribute vaccines so that people can go back to the office/to the shops. Only a superhero could manage that.

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          Do you think there is a president that wouldn’t distribute vaccines? Trump only sabotaged the distribution on his way out because he’s a massive sore loser who wanted to make things more difficult for his opponent.

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            Yes actually — he started sabotaging pandemic response as soon as it became known that in the absence of vaccines, the disease would disproportionately harm minority communities which have less access to care.

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              But trump sabotaged the pandemic response for everyone, it wasn’t isolated to minorities. Had trump won, he wouldn’t have sabotaged the distribution of vaccines since it’d only be harming his own presidency.

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      What does this even mean? Biden just happened to benefit from research that began before he was even president.

      Also continued the Trump policy of spreading vaccine misinformation in Asia to undermine China, causing countless deaths.

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        It means his team arranged for actual delivery, federal payments, and not just dumping it on the system, which weren’t prepared

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          The vaccine was finished in Trump’s lame duck period, Biden had to finish Trump’s job because he’s a psychopath and didn’t feel like doing anything if he wasn’t president anymore.

          But vaccines are not the end of the pandemic. Biden just used them to trick everyone into thinking it’s over.

          COVID is still killing people.

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            It’s not the end; it’s not something that ever ends, in the same way that influenza still kills people.

            But vaccines got us from a disease that was killing an awful lot more people to one where it’s one that kills a few.

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              Where’s small pox?

              Also, China showed that we could have at least had lockdowns until everyone was vaccinated. Instead we let er rip and more people died from COVID under Biden than under Trump.

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                Smallpox is a disease where vaccination once protects you for life.

                The current round of vaccines for COVID protect you for several months.

                There’s a difference in outcomes because of that. I’ll also note that a big chunk of China didn’t get vaccinated either, and that we have a really active anti-vax contingent in the US with the support of Trump and the other Republicans.

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                  We could have kept masking and kept working from home while pumping billions more into vaccines until we could achieve eradication. We chose to let people die instead.

                  Also I’ll note, again, that a big portion of anti-vaxx sentiment in Asia was spread by the US to undermine China. Disgusting.

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                    There are things we could have done better; the US isn’t some island of perfection, but it was on the whole, a decent response after Biden took office.

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          The Pentagon was actively spreading anti-vaxx misinformation in Asia. Claiming that the Chinese vaccine had pork (so Muslims wouldn’t use it), that vaccines weren’t effective, etc.

          It was an attempt to destabilize Asia. There’s a Reuters article released a couple weeks ago on it. Happened summer 2020 -> summer 2021. So roughly half under Trump, half under Biden.

          Although it wasn’t exactly a “Trump policy” or a “Biden policy”

          Obviously they ultimately hold responsibility for what the Pentagon does because they are commander in chief, but the military did act very sketchy in this case. They essentially used loopholes by considering the “Asian cyperspace” an “active warzone” which allowed them to do certain things without authorization from the state department.