It was interesting to see more or less what my ROI would be if I tried to talk to one of these guys. It definitely isn’t much, but I’d say it makes it obvious that there’s no point in “triangulating” like a democrat. They’ll just go along with whatever if the leadership is strong, IMO. Obviously the only strong leasers you get in the US are extremely anticommunist so this is what you get.
I agree that “triangulation” is pointless (big surprise that tailism is bad), but in a way I thought it was sort of hopeful because the mother agreed on many progressive policies and sentiments, and that was with very little argument over the course of less than two hours. I think it began to show the ways that having earnest discussion where you hear people out not to legitimize their views but just to understand them so that you can engage with them in a way that they can understand can get you some degree of progress, at least if the other person is still lucid.
Oh right yeah I agree, I would do it with someone a couple steps less committed to trump than they are. Also depends on getting some information about their class interest and class alignment early on.
I’d be down to chip away at the edges, and the podcast parents will either get with it at a later stage, or they can go down with the Trump ship and take the free healthcare against their will.
It was interesting to see more or less what my ROI would be if I tried to talk to one of these guys. It definitely isn’t much, but I’d say it makes it obvious that there’s no point in “triangulating” like a democrat. They’ll just go along with whatever if the leadership is strong, IMO. Obviously the only strong leasers you get in the US are extremely anticommunist so this is what you get.
I agree that “triangulation” is pointless (big surprise that tailism is bad), but in a way I thought it was sort of hopeful because the mother agreed on many progressive policies and sentiments, and that was with very little argument over the course of less than two hours. I think it began to show the ways that having earnest discussion where you hear people out not to legitimize their views but just to understand them so that you can engage with them in a way that they can understand can get you some degree of progress, at least if the other person is still lucid.
Oh right yeah I agree, I would do it with someone a couple steps less committed to trump than they are. Also depends on getting some information about their class interest and class alignment early on.
I’d be down to chip away at the edges, and the podcast parents will either get with it at a later stage, or they can go down with the Trump ship and take the free healthcare against their will.