• Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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    male victims of pretty much anything are underserved because of toxic masculinity and patriarchal attitudes about what is abuse and who can be abused.

    how many of those 40% are comfortable reporting? how many reports of DV lead to an arrest regardless of gender?

  • Midnight_Pearl [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    a lot of people who self-identify as left wing in the burger reich really just mean they’re slightly to the left of mussolini

    y’know, like all those r/walkaway chuds who are totally former “leftists” because they voted dem once when they were 18

    • aanes_appreciator [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      yeah when “left wing” in the imperial core has been coopted by liberals and social fascists you can’t trust that moniker. Hell, even communist isn’t the fuckin’ green red flag it should be.

      I gotta start every conversation with “what the fuck do you think dialectical materialism is you piece of shit?” to assess if i have to projectile vomit on the bastard who just served me my latte.

  • Dort_Owl [they/them, any]@hexbear.net
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    As someone who has known many, many women who are DV victims. Fuck this type of argument. Fuck it hard. You have no idea until you’ve spoken to these women just how bad it is.

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    That slop is trash on multiple levels, and looking at those votes I won’t be surprised if the whole sub is too, so I won’t even check.

    That said, the existence of these confused groups is a reminder that hegemonic patriarchy alienates huge numbers of men as well, who are looking for answers and community. Sexism in our societies does stigmatize male and men victims of abuse, preys upon those who don’t meet masculine ideals (look at “mens help” grifters and products, akin to the women beauty industry). And if we fail to create and promote places for the disillusioned victims of patriarchy to learn and find community in, they might find a home in reactionary false-solutions, like the manosphere and trad cultures (even see “trad women” who glorify their own subservience to patriarchy) which are an easy pathway to recruitment by openly-fascist organizations.

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    I suspect proving psychological abuse for arrest (to a cop no less) or following conviction requires shit with lawyers and recordings, compared to physical, while stats are collected on self-reports *edited for clarity

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      very unclear what you are trying to say but hopefully you’re not dismissing psychological & emotional abuse. Though unclear what arrests would look like there going back to the post.

      • plinky [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        No-no, that’s my point, just arrest as a stat would probably disfavor psychological abuse, probably for all gendered victims, and conviction on it would require like recording interactions, and establishing patterns/why that thing is bad to say etc. while self reporting on questionnaires it will get into statistics

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          Yeah you can’t take a picture of psychological abuse like you can for physical after the fact, so it’s more of a he said she said case unless you have witnesses or footage.

  • Arahnya [he/him, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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    this is a built in feature of reddit, as long as I have used it there has always been a ““male”” advocacy" group. It just pops up in different forms over the years.

  • LeonTreatsky [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    I’ve seen plenty of DV perpetrated by either gender, so I’ve actually never really considered it much of a gendered issue to be honest - except for how society’s patriarchal leanings change it’s expression.

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    Seeing the group name is a pretty clear indicator that its reactionary, that’s like a socialist group consisting exclusively of white people